I’ve speculated for some time that there would be further dates added to the Tool USA tour in May, and this morning it seems like we have another batch:
Jacksonville, FL – May 5, 2019 – Welcome To Rockville –
(on Sale now)
Brimingham, AL – May 7, 2019 – Legacy Arena At The Bcc –
(on Sale 3/15/19 10 AM Local Time)Louisville, KY – May 8, 2019 – KFC Yum! Center
(on Sale 3/15/19 10 AM Local Time)
Hampton, VA – May 10, 2019 – Hampton Coliseum
(on Sale 3/15/19 10AM Local Time)
St. Louis, MO – May 13, 2019 – Enterprise Center
(on Sale 3/15/19 10AM Local Time)Rockingham NC – May 11, 2019 – Epicenter Festival
https://www.toolband.com/news/459218/tool-shows
Kansas City, MO – May 14, 2019 – Sprint Center
(on Sale 3/15/19 11am Local)
Lincoln, NE – May 16, 2019 – Pinnacle Bank Arena
(on Sale 3/15/19 10am Local Time)
Des Moines, IA – May 17 – Wells Fargo Arena
(on Sale 3/15/19 10am Local Time)
Bridgeview, IL – May 19 – Chicago Open Air Festival
(on Sale Now)
Good news for Tool fans in those areas – I’m not expecting much more for now. Expect a proper US tour, probably later in 2019.
The obvious question is will the new album be out by then? My advice is – don’t get too excited. Perhaps we’ll have a single by the (which they might play live) but I’m not hopeful of an album release until late May at the earliest.
Anyway, here’s my suggestion for Tool in regards to this tour – make the VIP sessions listening parties for the new album.
Surely they wouldn’t step on stage without either releasing new material first or at the very least playing some of it – doing neither would be very lame and therefore very ‘Un-Tool’.
Hard to say what is and isn’t ‘Un-Tool’ about the situation, as assuming the album won’t be out in time for the start of the tour, this is largely unprecedented. I wouldn’t be so quick is casting judgement on what is and isn’t ‘Tool’.
I would say that if they start the tour before the album is released, they should put out a disclaimer for fans if they aren’t going to play the new material.
That would be appropriate.
Maybe, but to me I’d be assuming that no new material will be played. The only exceptions I’d expect are Descending, and a single should they happen to release one by then.
Expecting otherwise is likely to end in disappointment.
My first guess would be they play the full version of descending (or whatever it’s called now) to close each show of the tour.
And maybe it’s the single too. Maybe :/
But I agree. One new song in full at most.
After letting myself whine and pule for a few years about the never dropping new album, I took the bait and went to Northern Invasion last year. I mean the whole line up kicked ass, but Tool was also the final act. After that weekend, I finally realized I don’t care if they never put out another album, I’ll go see those guys as long as they’re willing to tour. They’re coming to Des Moines again after a looooonnnnng hiatus, and I’ll be there amazed as always.
You keep filling their pockets with cash, like the band wants you to.
Don’t think too much about quality or content, just keep mindlessly paying.
Get over yourself. The Rolling Stones and Paul McCartneys of the world still play 75% of their older stuff in concert and it’s just as good now as it was before. And who in the hell are you to call out someone for what they enjoy/love and want to spend their money on? I know if falling for the bait but you are such a drain on this site more often times than not. Constant negativity. While we are throwing around useless opinions that never advance the conversation… TBH, I believe it’s the fans like you that make MJK so… Read more »
He’s definitely the type of “insufferable retard fanatic” that Maynard was referring to years ago. I never really understood that comment until now that I’ve seen this shit maynerd posts. I can’t fathom the level of stalker-fanatic “Stan” you’d have to be to grow to apparently hate the band you once enjoyed but still continue to post on a fan site. What a loser.
I think you probably resemble your avatar in real life. You need to calm down a little bit. Freedom of speech is important.
Listen. I am a long time avid Tool fan. But I have absolutely grown tired of Maynard’s commentary on the state of Tool as a group dynamic and Tool fans in general. The dude is lost in LaLa Land. He lives in Arizona, has turned into a pinky-upturned snob who only cares about the finest wines and cheeses, and then goes hunting for leisure. He’s really a weird mishmash and he has an attitude problem. With that being said, he’s also one of the most talented musicians of our time. Whatever he puts out seems to be of quality (save… Read more »
That’s a measured and reasonable response. I suppose I should apologize to Maynerd for going off. I may have judged too harshly. It’s just not the first time ive read one of his posts and thought to myself “Then why are you still here?” My main criticism of Tool is Danny saying the album would surely be out by the end of the year since 2014. It’s a little ridiculous. I personally don’t fault them for charging what they do while playing old material. You should expect a set of old material – the new one isn’t out yet. And… Read more »
X2 Stinkfist and Phaedrus
The links to buy tickets have this disclaimer: “No cameras or audio recording devices allowed”
Unclear whether that means there will be phone lock pouches or just security kicking people out like in the recent APC tour. Either way I think this may mean new tunes. Could be just wishful thinking…
Every ticket sold (Tool or not) for the last 20 years says that
Really? That certainly hasn’t been enforced.
This disclaimer “No cameras or audio recording devices allowed” is pretty much standard for every show.
It’s really only enforced when the band insist on it (like Tool have in recent years in regards to phone recording/photos). Security usually have bigger fish to fry. Typically, here in Australia at least, so long as you’re not bringing professional gear in, security mostly won’t care.
I almost got tossed out of a TOOL show in Reno years ago because I took a picture. I didn’t know they would be so strict about it. Be careful…
With the new album literally dropping any time in the next few months, I’m sure they’ll play either the first single at the upcoming concerts, which they’ll release just beforehand plus a full version of Descending. Obviously, this is pure speculation, but why would they go with another greatest hits set with fresh new material ready to go?
I suspect doing another Greatest Hits tour wasn’t the plan, but is what may end up happening!
The facts of the matter at hand are that MJK himself stated in an interview with Joe Rogan that the vinyl releases for Puscifer and APC take 3 months to be manufactured. Now that we know the album has been mastered, it relies on artwork for the vinyl to be finished. I would assume the artwork is complete because we must factor in this 3 month wait for vinyl manufacturing. MJK stating that ‘around June or July’ makes sense. It doesn’t make sense for them to tour without a new single, that would just make them look even worse (if… Read more »
While I don’t disagree it’ll most likely be a June release – bands releasing vinyl well after launch isn’t really uncommon in the industry. I wouldn’t even assume there will be a vinyl release (though I’d be surprised if there wasn’t)
It would be very disappointing to at minimum not get a new single. Two or three songs would be Very nice. They are in the bag, just start advertising the album. Looking forward to Chicago.
they could easily put out a basic cd / digital release before May then release fancy cd/vinyl later. the elaborate packaging is nice but i dont think any less of the early albums that dont have it and i dont think having access to the new songs will stop people buying in the future. but the tour will no doubt sell out regardless!
one thing thats kind of annoyed me since 10k came out is you cant put the cd into cd holder cause they dont fit! wasnt parabola and schism like that too for the videos ? i cant recall as i have them somewhere else but i know 10k/vicarous dvd wont cause of the size. id rather them fit were i can store them with the rest of. i’ll survive but its kind of annoying.
Pretty annoying for sure, then again I reckon I’ve only even actually removed the CD from it’s 10k Days case once in it’s life.
whys that ? you dont like it very much ? its my least fav tool cd to be honest.
i took the cd out and put it into a blank case when it came out so i could could put it after Lateralus. the real case/art thing for 10k is in my bedframe shelve thing thats built into it,collecting dust sorta. oh geeze!
Nah, I listen to it with great frequency. The reason I took it out, was so that it could rip it to a FLAC/mp3 for listening on PC, car, phone etc. I probably haven’t listened to an actual CD in years, though vinyl I still crank out semi frequently.
i like live recordings to be honest. i listen to those more then studio albums. Although recently i just listened to the 24 bit version of Mothers Milk by the Chili Peppers. i still love that album and the 24 bit versoin sounds great!
never got into vinyl but i get the appeal. Vinyls made such a come back. thats cool but not for me! 🙂
wait duuh, like everyone else i dont really listen to my cds. prob the same eh. i will listen to it on my computer before getting a disc out even if i bought,which i’ll be buying Tool of course.
What I want before the tour starts:
-Vinyl release date of all albums including new one in a box set
-All albums released digitally on streaming services
-Single released
-ToolArmy presales for tour
What I’ll get:
– 3 boring minutes of Descending, the same 8 songs live and an Opiate video.
You may be getting ahead of yourself on the Opiate video too.
All the clues we’ve got until now – danny’s words, Joe’s teasing, the rabbit in Adam’s latest instagram posts – seem to point towards something happening in april.
I don’t think they’d hop on tour without having a single ; it would be terrible marketing.
I agree. Especially with all Joe B’s Easter candy like instagram posts.
This is the March Newsletter? Strange. Seems like HellBoy is being cautiously pessimistic. ha ha! Almost as if he knows something.
I think he knows more than he let’s on. I think he’s obviously been sworn to secrecy too. And Hellboy is not the type to get in well with Tool inner circle information and then carelessly flush it all away.
Assuming the album is finished why doesnt MJK just say release the album before May or Im not going on tour? Id reckon that would speed things up…
Why would you have any expectation that a member of the band would act like that?
dunno, i suppose you could take our frustration with it all and multiply it by a thousand for him. Peter Gabriel wouldnt have put up with that!
This is strange behavior even for Tool. Touring before the release makes no sense, given that a large proportion of their fan base has been around for years, seen them play several times, and is dying to hear the new music, which is right around the corner. But it also seems that’s what they’re doing, as manufacturing will take at least a couple of months, and since they don’t have a record deal that covers digital distribution I don’t think we’ll see any kind of download/streaming release before the physical disc. I haven’t missed a Tool show in my area… Read more »
The reality of touring and festivals, especially at the bigger end of the scale like Tool is that there is considerable lead time to get these things sorted. Festival headliners are often booked 12 months in advance. As I’ve said before, I think when Tool agreed to these dates, they had every expectation that the album would be out by then. It now likes likely to miss that deadline, which is disappointing, but not entirely unexpected. I’d agree in general though that it’d be disappointing to see no new songs on these shows, but as a long suffering Tool fan,… Read more »
You know what would be funny as HELL (see what I did there) if the band we all love, abruptly changed their stance on digital distribution and the entire new release was purely digital. That would eliminate production time and allow for an earlier release that everyone on this board is over-analyzing. And, I think most of us have heard Tool mention that they’ve always come up with new ideas for songs as they play them live. Songs evolve with happy accidents and response from the audience. I really think that was their intention with Descending and we’ve all heard… Read more »
An educated guess of sorts… The way their touring machine operates (mainly the lighting/visuals) and how synchronized every aspect of the show must be, I don’t see any chance they start the tour playing old material and then ‘progress’ to the new material once the album comes out. Junior?!? Are you out there?? We all know seeing them live is like going to a Broadway play or some shit (for severe lack of a better example). A play doesn’t pick up residence in a theater and morph into a different play toward the end of their stay, just too much… Read more »
If I were going to one of the upcoming shows knowing that their new album is just about to drop and they didn’t play any new material, I’d be royally pissed off. I don’t know why they’d commit to a round of dates just to roll out another Greatest Hits set with new material practically ready to go.
I agree. It’s go big or go home at this point. They gotta be of the same mind. They need to hit us like a ton of bricks and really get the enthusiasm rolling. Set the stage for the next few years (maybe even decades)
I understand what Hellboy is saying about planning for the festivals up to year out beforehand etc. But the recent announcement of solo TOOL shows slotted in between those festival shows would be somewhat disingenuous if the new album wasn’t out by then (early to mid May). Those recently added solo shows were added just after the mastering process was completed so the band must have a timeline for when this thing is being released. I would be seriously pissed off if I attended a May show in St Louis, Kansas City or Des Moines and the band didn’t play… Read more »
I mostly agree, but I also suspect those shows didn’t just get lined up in the last week either – I think they were always going to happen.
This is correct. One, you have to get shit in place logistically – venue reserved, ticketing apparatus, etc.
Two, the delay on announcing the additional shows is due to contractual obligations and is pretty much a standard practic in the industry. Festivals have radius/timing clauses in their contracts for the bigger acts IOT maximize ticket sales / not cannibalize.
Bonnaroo doesn’t want to book a big act only to have that same act announce they are playing an hour away at another city/venue the same time they drop the lineup poster.
Yeah fair enough but it just seems odd that they were announced after the mastering process was completed. My bet is that TOOL finished mastering, felt confident they could release a single in mid April and thought an early to mid May release was possible so they locked in and announced those shows. I can understand maybe playing a festival show such as the May 5 date in Jacksonville say a day or two before your album comes out. But turning up to Birmingham or Louisville on May 7 or May 8 for your own solo show with no new… Read more »
May is only a couple of months away – they can’t really afford to hold back an announcement of these shows any longer.
I’d speculate the original plan was to announce these dates in conjunction with details of the album, but since that isn’t finalised they’ve had to proceed with the ticket sales anyway.
If I was seeing them in this May tour I would 100% keep expectations low. Anyone remember the hype of that end of tour L.A show? Surely they will play at least one new track though…
lets hope MJK has his riot gear on again cos this time people may well start throwing cabbages at them…
I believe that packaging and such has already been completed, as there has been way more than enough time for that. The mastering process as we all know is going on now. I’m hoping for a May or Early June release. I think an April release is just to close to call!
Hey…. whatever it is they play, at least it won’t be like this…
https://youtu.be/TudbbVdz8os
My prediction: Tool opens up their set with a new song.
That would satisfy expectations and set everyone in a good mood for the remainder of the show.
Chonus, you’re not kidding! What an incredible mind-fuck of an idea that would be so cool for them to pull off, for at least the first several shows if they can keep the album from leaking this time until whatever the release date becomes. TOOL fans have some great ideas. But then, potentially the first view/impressions of a new tune on phones in an arena or outdoor venue, as many have said, not what the band would ideally want. Who knows? But exciting times!
Super exciting. Paradigm shifting even
Can’t remember if it was before the release or after the release but I have a video from the Aenima era where Maynard says “We haven’t had a chance to get polished on this shit yet” so I don’t think it’s out of the realm of possibility for them to play new songs. This show was either right before or right after the release in Pomona I think.
I wouldn’t rule it out either, but I’d be tempering expectations quite strongly. The Aenima era was a long time ago, and a quite different musical landscape compared to now
i was thinking the same thing when they practiced new material while Aenima was being written. its so long ago and this is a diff situation as everythings already been done. i remember M saying they were feeling out the new songs by playing them live and it helped write them for the album.
true though, its relatable for sure and they may bust out a few at least. they have to really. i mean wouldnt they want to play new stuff anyway after all there efforts making a new album after 13 years? i think so!
My money’s on them playing the new single live. They’ll probably release that before the album anyways. That plus maybe one other new song, if the new album hasn’t dropped yet. Of course if they release it digitally first, then they’ll have more freedom to not over expose it live. Whatever happens, it’s gonna be fun to see unfole. And it at least seems that Opiate video’s gonna drop real soon.
There’s no evidence that the Opiate video is going to drop.
It would be a ridiculous thing to do at this point.
The spotlight is going to be on the new album this year, and any singles that come from it.
Opiate video would be for a ‘Salival 2’ project.
I agree that there’s no evidence it’s about to drop, but nor would I be surprised if it were released as some kind of pre-order bonus or something.
That is the most sensible thing you have said in a while, Hellboi.
I would like to suggest that you email Blair and beg for a priority Q&A with him.
The questions would be from the forum members, my two questions would be, “Are you still batshit crazy?”, and “Have you seen, or are you aware of the album artwork yet?”.
I hope you will focus your energies on making this happen…
Hellboy is nothing if not sensible 100% of the time 24/7.
Thought I saw a post somewhere around here from someone saying Adam told them at a VIP that it would be released before the new album, but yeah, that’s not necessarily the most reliable source.
Prediction sum up all in one place.
New album drops 4-19-19 (could also be “Salival 2” or both).
New album is double album (or greater)
Tool opens new tour shows with new song.
Am I missing anything?
There is an album release date competition in the forum FYI:
http://fourtheye.net/f/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=61
All the “good” dates are taken though (assuming the album doesn’t get delayed into oblivion).
My prediction is a late May release, 2 new tracks on the US tour (whatever the single is, and the full version of “Ascending” (assuming they aren’t the same thing)), and album will be a triple vinyl.
Nice. Those are solid and reasonable predictions. Triple vinyl has a nice ring to it for forum. Cool, Ill check out the competition in the forum.
*for sure not for forum
Prediction? Or has someone told you so??
Just prediction
Total predicton