This is how I feel from the start of the day till now
Re: Australian politics thread
Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 5:56 am
by liz
Lol. I have lots of friends that share your sentiment. My brother is off at an election party tonight where he dreamed of a labor landslide with a green balance of power in the senate. The next family dinner should be unbearable.
Re: Australian politics thread
Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 6:00 am
by tys0n
All in all nothing much will change for me but would have liked Labor to win.
Congratulations Sco Mo, that's politics.
Re: Australian politics thread
Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 6:08 am
by hellboy
The fact that nothing much will change is part of the problem.
Re: Australian politics thread
Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 6:16 am
by tys0n
I know but whinging about shit online never gets anything done.
You can't tax, tax, tax your way into wealth and economic prosperity. You don't win an election with spiteful, smarmy class warfare sentiments. You can't punish average Australians who just want to get ahead and don't want to depend on the public purse and come up trumps. You can't answer honest questions about policy costs with self aggrandizing blanket statements like "Well, what's the cost of not acting...?"
Labor lost because it showed the majority of Australians don’t want to be told what to do by a hard left dictator. Bowen was a huge liability. He was completely out of his depth as a treasurer and he's shown that in his past endeavours. We're still waiting for that "surplus", pal. Contrast to Frydenberg who is all class and provides balance and incentives for people to work and get ahead.
Labor/Greens don't get it and they probably never will. Those of us that work hard, have aspirations and hope to better ourselves and the future for our families aren't selfish or greedy. They hate us and we know it......
The "racist, greedy, backwater bogans" of this country have spoken. Pffft. More like the "silent majority" have spoken over the top of loud, hateful GetUp screams of outrage.
Suck it up.
Re: Australian politics thread
Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 7:32 pm
by liz
I agree with you totally Calfium. Well put.
Re: Australian politics thread
Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 7:47 pm
by hellboy
I don't care about tax really. I care much more that the Coalition don't give a flying fuck about the climate. That more people aren't outraged by this, and in fact prefer to have a few more dollars in their pocket is a poor indictment on society.
Re: Australian politics thread
Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 8:20 pm
by liz
So what would labor have done besides making motherhood statements?
If Australia really wants to make a difference we should stop exporting our coal. It will cost us big time and if we go that path all should be prepared to pay for it. Not just some of us.
Re: Australian politics thread
Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 8:30 pm
by hellboy
liz wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 8:20 pm
So what would labor have done besides making motherhood statements?
Not sure what you mean by motherhood statements? Do I need to direct you to their policies?
Yes, we should stop using and exporting coal. We need to find another way. It will have a cost, but will likely be cheaper than the cost if we continue down that path.
Re: Australian politics thread
Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 8:32 pm
by hellboy
Anyway, I'm kinda done with debating politics for now. It's incredibly depressing regardless of what side of the fence you fall on.
Re: Australian politics thread
Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 8:49 pm
by liz
Yes it's over now and I do hope that we see a bipartisan approach to the climate change issue in the next term. I have never met another Australian that doesn't think climate change is a problem that needs addressing.
Re: Australian politics thread
Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 8:50 pm
by liz
Off to focus on the creation of lamb shanks in red wine sauce.
Re: Australian politics thread
Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 8:55 pm
by Calfium Jay
Agreed.
I'm done. Funnily enough.
I will note however that Australia is on track to meet its Paris Agreemnets on climate change.
Coal is our no. 1 export. We earn billions from it. And I daresay that Labor would have been loathe to reduce that in all seriousness as it's such a boost to the public purse. We have to accept that mining in this country is our backbone. It's easy enough to say things like "that needs to change" and much more difficult to put a plan into action. Especially if mining puts a roof over your head and food on the table.
And if coal hungry nations want coal (and they do) then if they can't get it from Australia they'll get it from somewhere else.
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Re: Australian politics thread
Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 9:24 pm
by Busty McCracken
Well fuck me I didn't see that one coming. As said in here my biggest concern is the continued neglect of our environment and that we still have a deeply religious leader. Man what Id give for an agnostic or atheist leader