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UndKeineZwEier wrote:I think he saw the rumor come up in his mentions and thought it was dumb so he replied "#dumb".

No shit

Yeah, no need to read too much into Maynard's Tweet. Pretty sure he just wanted to squash the moronic rumor before idiots from Pitchfork and the like publish a non-story.

#overthinkingoveranalyzing

Pitchfork don't care about Tool rumors.

Ain't nobody got time for dat

UndKeineZwEier wrote:Pitchfork don't care about Tool rumors.

It's because they rarely report news on bogan music.

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Given this was played right around the time Lateralus came out it makes you wonder if Wings was a fully fleshed out song that was cut from Lateralus and ended up making it on 10000 days. The part they play here isnt much different than the album version of Wings, even the base line is the same.

^ I doubt it was cut from Lateralus. It doesn't feel like it ever really belonged on Lateralus. I suspect many of Tool's larger, more complex compositions have come from noodling around with ideas and jams that they play around with over years until an actual song structure comes to the surface.

Don't mistake me, I am no way taking up for Tool. We all know where I stand on that, but in pursuit of mindfulness one must aim to strike a balance between positive and negative and try to dispassionately analyze any given situation. My emotion, as it pertains to Tool, wants only to hammer away at everything negative that the band has come to represent to me. But that is not the path of mindfulness. Any analysis must take into account all possibilities and strive for honest evaluation. As such, in this instance, I see no issue and certainly no reason to look upon this early Wings jam in a negative light.

I do hope you get the album you have been so patiently waiting for, although the later we get into the year the more likely I think they are not going to hit the studio until the winter. I still think a 2017 release is likely, but probably a fall release is realistic. I hope it brings you joy.

Peace

Hell I'm not even close to expecting a 2017 release and I'm generally an optimistic kinda guy!

Busty McCracken wrote:Hell I'm not even close to expecting a 2017 release and I'm generally an optimistic kinda guy!

I don't think many of us have any real expectations at the moment, though that said there's no reason why 2017 should be discounted at this stage. Just need to wait for:

• the right planetary alignment
• Adam, Danny and Justin to get in the zone
• Tool to run out of money
• all of the above

As long as they can sell out arenas they don't have to worry about money problems. Monetarily, I'm not even sure what it would do to their bottom line. I'm sure it helps but selling records isn't the source of income it once was.

Personally I think we can mostly discount the "need the money" type arguments. If the members live within their means (and assuming they've managed their finances well thus far) I doubt any of them need to earn any more money going forward.

I expect that royalties, even reduced as they are, would still earn a decent income.

At this point in time I almost expect them to just drop from out of nowhere a social media announcement image of an offical release date/ album cover etc for the big grand entrance, but that's a big IF the album ever sees light of day. Could be next year, could be 2020, could be never.

Wouldnt be surprised to see em in Aus again next year if no album comes out. Seems to be about a 3 year cycle they come down here.

Why is that post on reddit saying this is official?

https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCINawo364C-NCXc_n-3bxOw

Link just goes to Schism & Parabola.

Ravenpig wrote:Why is that post on reddit saying this is official?

https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCINawo364C-NCXc_n-3bxOw

It might be official - VEVO and Volcano are both owned by Sony. Tool having a VEVO channel doesn't really mean shit though.

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Given this was played right around the time Lateralus came out it makes you wonder if Wings was a fully fleshed out song that was cut from Lateralus and ended up making it on 10000 days. The part they play here isnt much different than the album version of Wings, even the base line is the same.

The extended ending of Parabola from this show is fucking unreal! I just heard it for the first time the other day (it's San Diego 2002, one of the shows they recorded for the "Live DVD").

joeypants wrote:

xZ1mM3r wrote:[youtube][/youtube]

Given this was played right around the time Lateralus came out it makes you wonder if Wings was a fully fleshed out song that was cut from Lateralus and ended up making it on 10000 days. The part they play here isnt much different than the album version of Wings, even the base line is the same.

The extended ending of Parabola from this show is fucking unreal! I just heard it for the first time the other day (it's San Diego 2002, one of the shows they recorded for the "Live DVD").

Cold and Ugly
The Grudge
Stinkfist (Extended)
Forty-Six & 2
Schism
Parabol
Parabola (w/ Extended Outro)
Opiate
Aenema
Disposition
Relfection
Triad (w/ Meshuggah)
Wings for Marie Intro
Lateralus


What a badass setlist!

They may say, Those were the days...,
But in a way,
You know for us these are the days.

Newsletter is up. It's an interview, or rather it's about an interview with Danny. Sort of. Come on you know Blair by now.

Good to hear that they have another song almost done, and that the curveball turned out really well (though I wouldn't expect they'd say otherwise). The fact that they at least mentioned stuff getting sent to Maynard is somewhat promising, even if it only sounds like they have a couple of tracks done. Makes it sound like they're actually on the path to getting something done in the next 12 months.

Anyone else think Blair was dropping some hints in the 'what didn't I ask him' part?

aenimal wrote:Anyone else think Blair was dropping some hints in the 'what didn't I ask him' part?

It was unusual, I assumed he's just taking the piss out of the constant stream of emails I expect he receives.

No news is good news.

Know your fingers are tired, but I'd say hold tight.

My fingers are tired. As is my throat from all my ceaseless mumbling about the record being late. Not to mention the number of desks I've broken with rage over the last 10 years.

How much more can a Typical Tool Fan take?

Hopefully 6 more months