There’s another update from Danny Carey in regards to the new Tool album floating around, and this is courtesy of Drum Magazine:
“It’s gonna be really good,” he said. “We’re really excited about it. We’re getting really close, too. We’re probably going to write the rest of this year and then start tracking early in the new year. So, it’ll be out some time in 2018.”
Good news it seems, and would suggest that Maynard is underway with his part of the songwriting process. Of course Maynard is well known for hosing down the other members of Tool in regards to progress, so lets take with a pinch of salt for now.
The rest of the interview is interesting, and probably skipped over by many. Danny talks about Legend of the Seagullmen as well as a new kit that Sonar are working with him on.
Maynard James Keenan spoke with Joe Rogan on his podcast this week, and covers a range of the usual topics you’d expect – wine making, fighting, discipline, the music industry, his love for cross-stitching and of course, Tool. As with Maynard’s other chats with Rogan, it’s an interesting listen, and great to hear him speak in a more relaxed, between friends manner than the usual defensive style taken with clickbait focused music journalists.
But let’s face it, Tool is what most of us want to know about (that bit starts at around the 1:22 mark on the video embedded below). Specifically Maynard discusses frustrations, but also understanding and acceptance of the current writing process. He also mentions that there are several tracks ready for vocals, and others in the works as well. Though nothing is complete yet, he does mention that he had worked on vocals for a track, only to find when he returned to the band it had changes so much they were no longer relevant.
I came away from the interview feeling pretty good about where the album is at. It appeared to me that Maynard feels good about what has been written so far. There are obvious frustrations, but he seems at peace with where it’s at. Some question if we’ll ever see another album from Tool, but for me this interview definitely made me feel it’s more of a “when” situation rather than “if”
So, my take on all this is that songwriting continues. It’s not going to wind up any time soon. I don’t think anyone should have expectations of Tool recording anytime this year. I’d go so far as to say we’re unlikely to see a Tool album before this time next year.
Metal Sucks have today published a Podcast which contains a 10 minute interview with JustinChancellor, where he talks about progress on the new Tool album, and their love of playing live. While the interview is short on much concrete information, Justin does mention that he believes the new album is about 90% done. He declined to give any indication of when it would be released though.
It’s an insightful interview, so well worth your time.
Adam Jones from Toolrecently had a chat with Kelli from the Orange County Register, in which he discussed a few things about the current tour and upcoming San Bernadino show. He suggests that they’re still working on the album (though doesn’t give any clues as to when it’ll be done), and that the coming San Bernadino show isn’t a festival!
“We’re not using the ‘F-word’ on this – you know, festival,” Jones said. “It was just a nice opportunity since we were playing that outdoor venue to be like, ‘We’ll let’s add one more band. OK, wait, let’s at one more. OK, maybe one more.’
“Our band has always taken the route of what would we want if we went to a show and what I would want if I bought a ticket, a T-shirt or a record, is to get my money’s worth. We didn’t have to up the price of the ticket or anything like that for this show, we just had to fatten the budget a little so we could have more bands and just make a fun day of it. It’s definitely not going to be like Lollapalooza or anything, just a day with bands that you can come out, enjoy and have a good time.”
The interview is reasonably short, and worth a quick read.
In the meantime, the summer tour seems to be going pretty well. I’ve held back reporting on it wanting to not spoil those who are seeing them later in the tour. it’s safe to say that it’s not what some boldly predicted it to be (ie. a month long album launch party) but there have been a couple of small surprises. For those that want to delve deeper into these spoilers they can check out this thread in our forum.
Are you serious? How in the world could anyone – even the most desperate Tool enthusiast make such an incredible leap? I’ve received email over the years from people who have included a 20 page treatise on the true meaning behind “Lateralus” when the song tracks are re-arranged to their “secret” correct order and synched up to some obscure film, and I think: Hmm, who knows? But the idea about my mentioning a strange happening at Arby’s being a cryptic hint of “colossal Tool news” really had me scratching my head. (NOTE: For any one who is interested, I’ve copied my original post that was inserted as an update into the September 2016 newsletter. Check out the last sentence!)
So there we go. There’s a moral here somewhere!
There’s not much else happening in the newsletter, so my advice for the easily Blair triggered – don’t read it!
Here’s a report from the Baked Potato tonight where Fourtheye reader nxrm had the chance to chat with Danny Carey:
I went to The Baked Potato tonight and caught the first set of the Doug Webb Allstars. During the break I was fortunate to talk with Danny, and I asked him how high Tool fans must be to think the band would be releasing a new album prior to this upcoming tour. He laughed and said, “They can believe whatever they want, but it’s not gonna happen.” He added, and I’m condensing/paraphrasing here, that they hope to get into the studio to record in the Fall.
So there we go – can we stop speculating about the new album coming out this tour? It seems to be pretty rampant on Reddit and other places. I’d love to be wrong and have an album in our hands in June (or even this year) but I can’t see it happening.
I don’t think either Tool or A Perfect Circle have recorded anything yet, and given that the members are tied up in tours for each band, as well as the wine harvest I don’t see any kind of recording happening prior to October. This being the case I don’t think we should expect an album from either band until 2018, something Maynard has alluded to in a few Twitter posts lately.
Apparently the “guest” at the San Bernadino show was confirmed as well, but I’ve been asked to keep that one close to my chest. It’s not anyone that I’ve seen guessed previously, but will say it’s an older band that has been cited as an influence by Tool members in the past.
A Perfect Circle have signed with record label BMG with Billy Howerdel telling us:
We just signed a new record deal with BMG! Looking forward to sharing new music with you soon. New APC-2017!
A few music sites around the place were pretty quick to jump on the idea that A Perfect Circle would have an album out in 2017. Maynard pretty quickly hosed down those suggestions with a typically to the point Twitter post:
My thoughts are that unless APC have an album in the bag, it seems unlikely that a 2017 release will happen. With an A Perfect Circle and Tool tour in the coming months, I find it a little hard to believe either band will find the time to record before Maynard’s wine harvest duties commence.
Sure, they may have written some songs, and could be well down the track towards recording, but there doesn’t seem to be any suggestion they have yet. It feels very similar to the Tool situation to me – plenty of songwriting, and possibly even some songs done but no actual confirmation of recording happening.
My expectation is that maybe we’ll see a single or EP by years end, with possibly a new song or two in the tour setlist, and then a new full length sometime in 2018.
The question is of course – can Tool and A Perfect Circleboth release an album in 2018?
Yesterday I saw an article on Bloomberg regarding Tool being in discussion with streaming services to get their material onto Spotify, Apple Music, etc. The article tells us:
The rock band Tool is in talks to make its catalog available on streaming services in time for the release of its first album in more than a decade, according to people with knowledge of the matter, marking the end of another high-profile holdout to the music industry’s digital transition.
Members of Tool have been talking to the biggest services, including Spotify and Apple, about the best way to release their music, said the people, who asked not be identified discussing the private negotiations. Lead singer Maynard James Keenan didn’t respond to requests for comment. The music services declined to comment.
My response to this is that it doesn’t come as a great surprise, nor do I really expect this style of release is imminent. Adam has given enough hints at recent Q&As to suggest that talks have been going on for a while, and so while I expect we will see album in digital mediums on or around the time of the new album coming out, I don’t feel overly confident we’ll see much until then.
Still, the fact that they appear to be considering options for the release of the new album (and their old ones) does show some promise that we’re actually entering the home stretch in regards to it’s production.
Before everyone goes and get’s too excited, I’m not suggesting Tool are actually recording at the moment – there’s still no indication Maynard is done with his bits yet, and personally don’t expect to see the band record in earnest until sometime after the tour.
Still, it’s encouraging to see more coming out of the Tool camp, and I think the somewhat positive vibe I’m getting indicates there might be some good progress happening here. We’ll see!