It has been confirmed that Tool are planning on recording a followup to their last album 10,000 Days.  While little is know about the album at this stage, this page is a collection of all know facts and rumours surrounding the album.

Facts

  • Blair on ToolarmyAdam and Justin started playing what I BELIEVE was part of a new Tool arrangement (NOT to be played on this tour), with what little I heard being somewhat reminiscent of “Wings”, having some fairly complex chord progressions.
  • Adam at Doctors Without Border fundraiser – we are in the finishing aspects of the writing process for the new album.
  • Danny mentions in a short Youtube interview (see 1:20) that they might start writing soon, but aren’t rushing things.
  • February 2010 Newsletter revealed that writing has commenced.
  • March 2010 Newsletter revealed that writing was still happening three days a week.

Rumours/Speculation

  • Recording for the album will most likely be in mid 2010
  • Expect a release somewhere in late 2010 or early 2011
  • A post on Toolshed suggests that “Lots of rumors are being posted online about a new Tool record, but it is important to remember that in years past, there have always been interviews with band members saying “we’re writing some new music”, often more than a year before an album gets released. For what it’s worth, a recent conversation I had with one of them left me feeling that it might be a little while yet“.  From memory Kabir at Toolshed has mentioned he speaks with Maynard semi-regularly.
  • February 2010 Newsletter suggested that Joe Baressi might be involved again.

Old/Obsolete Updates

  • According to Toolband the ‘process’ should start later this month.  No confirmation what this ‘process’ is, however the assumption is that it’s songwriting.
Updated 8-April-2010

132 Comments to “Tool Album #5”

  1. blurNo Gravatar | July 17th, 2009 at 6:16 am

    Good job man. Perhaps u could add the dates on the facts…

  2. HellFireNo Gravatar | August 8th, 2009 at 2:52 am

    Good job man. Perhaps u could add the dates on the facts…

    I agree with blur. I’d be interested to know when fact #2 happened.

    As for rumours, I think we’re looking at 2011. But I’ll take it if it comes sooner!!

  3. hellboyNo Gravatar | August 8th, 2009 at 10:08 am

    Good job man. Perhaps u could add the dates on the facts…

    I agree with blur. I’d be interested to know when fact #2 happened.

    As for rumours, I think we’re looking at 2011. But I’ll take it if it comes sooner!!

    Definitely 2010 in my opinion. Would come as no surprise to me if they’re in the recording studio by the end of this year. That being the case I’d expect a release mid-2010.

    I’ve added a link for rumour #2, it comes from a chat a Tool fan had with Adam at a recent fundraiser. As for #1, it comes from a Toolarmy exclusive post on the 13th of July, where Blair talks about sitting in on one of the tour rehearsals.

  4. s0me0nesmind1No Gravatar | August 13th, 2009 at 7:04 am

    Couple notes

    -I remember Maynard specifically stating in an interview or something that he didn’t realize how much he had revealed (assumed about his personal life, mother) with Wings / 10,000 days, and that he didn’t want that in the future. Maybe someone else can remember this.

    -How is the work on The Pot video coming along? I’m guessing this can easily get in the way of Album #5 as well.

  5. mikebwestyNo Gravatar | August 19th, 2009 at 1:59 am

    I agree with Hellboy’s opinion that it will be a 2010 release. I’m thinking more towards the end of the year though, like in the fall sometime.

    Coming up on 3.5 years since 10K days came out, damn.

  6. hellboyNo Gravatar | August 19th, 2009 at 8:38 am

    I agree with Hellboy’s opinion that it will be a 2010 release. I’m thinking more towards the end of the year though, like in the fall sometime. Coming up on 3.5 years since 10K days came out, damn.

    Before they decided to tour, i would have thought the album would be early/mid 2010, but the tour has now probably put it back 4+ months.

    Ultimately though, until they hit the recording studio, we won’t have any idea.  My guess is from the day they hit the studio, add about 6 months and that will be the approximate release.

  7. eleventy4No Gravatar | September 18th, 2009 at 3:51 pm

    Hey I think we should add the newest article you posted with the Maynard interview, saying Tool stuff will happen after the spring Puscifer tour.  Yup yup.

  8. badkittygothgirlNo Gravatar | November 5th, 2009 at 6:37 am

    I can’t even think about album #5 at this point.  I would give my left tit for a rambling post from Blair right about now.  Hell, i’d even be happy with truthaddict plastering the main board.
     
    *sigh*

  9. rukbatNo Gravatar | January 3rd, 2010 at 4:35 am

    regardless, just talk of a new album made my day.  best news i’ve heard since 06 :P

  10. OutlandishinNo Gravatar | January 9th, 2010 at 11:07 am

    I’ve enjoyed each album progressively more than the last, each album shows impressive dedication and talent.  i will be there to buy it when it comes out.

  11. andrewswmsNo Gravatar | January 18th, 2010 at 3:54 pm

    Album #5 had better come out sometime soon.
    Opiate – the roots of tool, very heavy, angry, but instrumentally gorgeous still.
    Undertow – One of Tool’s best. Went double platinum, great great album, much effort put into it.
    Aenema – Album with a strong message. The end of D’amour and the beginning for Chancellor. Classic tracks on this one.
    Lateralus – Amazing altogether as an album, my favorite. Well put together with so many interpretations.
    10,000 Days – Deep album about the death of Maynard’s mother. Very progressed instrumentals from Opiate, amazing musicianship as a whole. The band certainly has matured since 91′.
    [Fourth Eye] – I certainly hope this album causes the apocalypse of the human race with the best lyrics, vocals, instrumentals, and musicianship to date from any band. Danny Carey and his polyrhythms, Justin Chancellor and his groovy bass, Adam Jones and his chord progressions, Maynard Keenan with his screaming, intense vocals. I’ll buy first day it’s out. Triple platinum? :D

  12. BellJHNo Gravatar | January 19th, 2010 at 1:58 am

    Nice post. If their next album really is their best, I also hope they make it their last. Just to solidify their legacy as one of the greatest bands ever.
    And even if it isnt their greatest, who cares. It will still be damn good!

  13. mikebwestyNo Gravatar | January 19th, 2010 at 6:04 am

    I predicted last fall that they would release an album in late 2010, perhaps in October. I’ll stick to that prediction, but I’m becoming less confident in it as the weeks go by…

  14. kingNo Gravatar | January 26th, 2010 at 1:30 am

    when the tracklist is revealed id love to hear they’ve got Message to Harry Manback part 3 on it, that would pretty damn cool.

  15. markuspoopNo Gravatar | January 26th, 2010 at 4:31 am

    I’m kinda hoping they take a Metallica approach and come up with a The Patient 2 or something similar.

  16. teshla314No Gravatar | January 26th, 2010 at 4:52 am

    Poopyface – 20 minutes ago  » 
    I’m kinda hoping they take a Metallica approach and come up with a The Patient 2 or something similar.

    I am hoping for more music, less interludes and effects. More music and screaming vocals. See if MJK still has it or not.

    And of course, an affordable follow up tour.

  17. limeygringoNo Gravatar | January 28th, 2010 at 6:54 pm

    I’m kinda hoping they take a Metallica approach and come up with a The Patient 2 or something similar.

    If you compare Third Eye and Rosetta Stoned, you could come to the conclusion they’ve already done this.  Third Eye being about the power of psychedelics and Rosetta Stoned about the overuse of them.   They both even use the same “I opened my eye” riff.  At first this really pissed me off as I thought they were rehashing old material, but then as I realized the lyrical themes were the same that it was like the leitmotifs that Wagner used in his Ring operas to set a scene or introduce/reintroduce characters.  Maybe they didn’t use it that way, who knows.  But it works dammit.

  18. mikebwestyNo Gravatar | April 14th, 2010 at 2:22 am

    Well, Last summer I predicted an October 2010 release for this album. At this point it’s looking like my pick will turn out to be early, but what do I know! Anway, with Blair’s recent word of the band currently writing numerous times per week, when do you guys or gals think we will see this album?

  19. HellFireNo Gravatar | April 14th, 2010 at 2:47 am

    I’m adding 1 year to your prediction… October 2011

  20. gnjasmkrNo Gravatar | April 14th, 2010 at 2:49 am

    My guess would be May 2011 and hopefully a 10,000 Days vinyl release beforehand but that’s me just dreaming again. I am stashing away the $$$ for the next tour and hopefully get to see them a few times as it might be their last.

  21. royalredNo Gravatar | April 15th, 2010 at 6:09 am

    If they’re still writing it’s gonna be several months until they release an album. I’m guessing next year about this time. That would be 5 years. As always. And if you think you have any idea what it’s gonna sound like, think again. And if you want Maynard to scream more, forget about it. He’s getting close to 50 years old. Give him a freaking break. This band has and always will continue to evolve. They are not a pissed off band anymore. They’ve grown and are at peace, God forbid. People need to accept that and appreciate what they have evolved into. If you need the kind of energy they had back in the day, go listen to their older albums. That’s what they are there for. I appreciate the new energy and can’t wait to hear what they are going to do, but I have absolutely no expectations.

  22. HellFireNo Gravatar | April 16th, 2010 at 1:42 am

    The word is catching on fire!!

    “Now, it seems as if the release is finally upon us, as Tool has officially announced their plans to drop a new 2010 album.”

    http://www.aolradioblog.com/2010/04/15/tool-2010-new-album/

    They take that back by saying it could be rumors, but its a nice attention grabber! LOL!

  23. tooldudeNo Gravatar | April 16th, 2010 at 3:26 am

    The word is catching on fire!!
    “Now, it seems as if the release is finally upon us, as Tool has officially announced their plans to drop a new 2010 album.”
    http://www.aolradioblog.com/2010/04/15/tool-2010-new-album/
    They take that back by saying it could be rumors, but its a nice attention grabber! LOL!

    they havent “officially announced” anything… thats just blair fucking with us

  24. FleabirdNo Gravatar | April 16th, 2010 at 7:39 am

    I agree with royalred on the time-frame.  Bet it will be this time next year.

    For me, the wait is analygous to a Tool song.  Right now, we’re sitting through the intro.  The next year will be a long build up that gets better with every step.  Then, SHAZAM!  The release…

  25. hellboyNo Gravatar | April 16th, 2010 at 8:32 am

    That’s one of the worst articles I’ve ever read HellFire.  Even worse than some of mine!

  26. HellFireNo Gravatar | April 16th, 2010 at 11:04 pm

    LOL! I like yours better. ;)

    Although I appreciate the authors eagerness for a new album. It amuses me to see how he twisted it, to shove it to the general populace as fact. I guess we all have to make a living somehow.

  27. markuspoopNo Gravatar | April 17th, 2010 at 1:08 am

    I’ve farted better articles than that last one posted.

  28. st1nkf1stNo Gravatar | April 17th, 2010 at 2:04 pm

    Poopyface – 12 hours ago  » 
    I’ve farted better articles than that last one posted.

    Prove It!!
    .)

  29. AmnesiacNo Gravatar | April 23rd, 2010 at 3:18 pm

    Poopyface – 2 months ago  » 
    I’m kinda hoping they take a Metallica approach and come up with a The Patient 2 or something similar.

    In my opinion, I do not care if TOOL took as much time as they needed to conceptualize, write, record and master their new record, just so long as it is their absolute best effort as well as their last effort, not including a vinyl LP of said new record (as well as a vinyl LP release of 10,000 Days as well as some kind of live CD/DVD).

  30. HellFireNo Gravatar | April 23rd, 2010 at 10:52 pm

    I agree Amnesiac, but saying “last effort” already makes me sad. It’s a premature reaction but it still makes me die a little inside.

  31. hellboyNo Gravatar | April 23rd, 2010 at 11:02 pm

    While I suspect this may turn out to be Tool’s last album, I don’t imagine the band are in the studio going “this is our last shot, let’s make it a good one”

  32. SirGreatNo Gravatar | April 25th, 2010 at 2:19 am

    While I suspect this may turn out to be Tool’s last album, I don’t imagine the band are in the studio going “this is our last shot, let’s make it a good one”

     
    That’s what The Beatles did.

  33. kittaanNo Gravatar | April 25th, 2010 at 4:14 am

    SirGreat – 1 hour ago  » 

    While I suspect this may turn out to be Tool’s last album, I don’t imagine the band are in the studio going “this is our last shot, let’s make it a good one”

     
    That’s what The Beatles did.

    Not really: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbey_Road

  34. LMGarrettNo Gravatar | April 25th, 2010 at 10:22 am

    5 year plan people…..
    Tool has put out an album every 5 years since 1996.
    Aenima – 96
    Lateralus – 01
    10k Days – 06
    …makes sense that #5 would be released at some point in 2011. Tool is a very methodic band and I would bet a million bucks that they stick with the pattern they’ve had for the past 14 years.

  35. sheriNo Gravatar | April 26th, 2010 at 12:54 pm

    SirGreat – 1 hour ago  » 

    While I suspect this may turn out to be Tool’s last album, I don’t imagine the band are in the studio going “this is our last shot, let’s make it a good one”

      That’s what The Beatles did.

    In my Opinion Abbey Road is by far the best of the Beatles…Golden Slumbers is ASTOUNDING.  Oh wait we are talking Tool though, sorry guys, tangent.

  36. tiresiasNo Gravatar | April 28th, 2010 at 5:20 am

    What are the odds of this thing dropping this next month, or June when the US Tour starts? They have done May releases before (10,000 Days and Lateralus if I am not mistaken).

  37. nxrmNo Gravatar | April 28th, 2010 at 5:31 am

    It’s more likely that Monica Belluci is waiting for me downstairs than a new surprise album is in the works to be released in the next few months.

    Although, I’ll let you know once I get back from lunch. : )

  38. AmnesiacNo Gravatar | April 28th, 2010 at 8:23 am

    admin – 4 days ago  » 
    While I suspect this may turn out to be Tool’s last album, I don’t imagine the band are in the studio going “this is our last shot, let’s make it a good one”

    I understand that TOOL is probably not going to create their last album with the best-record-as-our-last’s-sake mentality, but I have to ask . . . how can they not think like that?

  39. sheriNo Gravatar | April 29th, 2010 at 11:25 am

    Sigh…I just shrug.

  40. LucidiotNo Gravatar | May 1st, 2010 at 2:18 pm

    I’m going to shit my self when this album comes out

  41. kittaanNo Gravatar | May 1st, 2010 at 2:23 pm

    Lucidiot – 4 minutes ago  » 
    I’m going to shit my self when this album comes out

    … Typical. 8`p

  42. kingNo Gravatar | May 5th, 2010 at 9:37 pm

    While I suspect this may turn out to be Tool’s last album, I don’t imagine the band are in the studio going “this is our last shot, let’s make it a good one”
    I understand that TOOL is probably not going to create their last album with the best-record-as-our-last’s-sake mentality, but I have to ask . . . how can they not think like that?

    i think they like any artist would think like that to an extent, the next album may be a masterpiece higher than lateralus that only they can imagine. 
    for the artist its always a fun challenge to out-do yourself.

  43. royalredNo Gravatar | May 6th, 2010 at 12:47 am

    I’m not so sure this will be their last album. I’m sure they don’t even know. People thought Lateralus was going to be the last, so who knows. I imagine it will all depend on MJK. It’s gonna be interesting to see what direction this album goes. Will it be more MJK friendly stuff like Wings and Right in Two or more grinding stuff like The Pot and Vicarious? Guess we shall see!

  44. HellFireNo Gravatar | May 6th, 2010 at 6:47 am

    royalred – 5 hours ago  » 
    I’m not so sure this will be their last album. I’m sure they don’t even know. People thought Lateralus was going to be the last, so who knows. I imagine it will all depend on MJK. It’s gonna be interesting to see what direction this album goes. Will it be more MJK friendly stuff like Wings and Right in Two or more grinding stuff like The Pot and Vicarious? Guess we shall see!

    I thought I read somewhere (or I’m crazy!) that following the battle that occured with the lawyers after the Aenima album, Tool was contractually obligated to release 3 albums under their current label. I’ve always counted Lateralus & 10,000 Days as the first two of the trio. So perhaps looking at it “contractually”, it is the last?

    Am I off the chart here? LOL!

  45. LucidiotNo Gravatar | May 6th, 2010 at 9:12 am

    royalred – 5 hours ago » I’m not so sure this will be their last album. I’m sure they don’t even know. People thought Lateralus was going to be the last, so who knows. I imagine it will all depend on MJK. It’s gonna be interesting to see what direction this album goes. Will it be more MJK friendly stuff like Wings and Right in Two or more grinding stuff like The Pot and Vicarious? Guess we shall see!

    I thought I read somewhere (or I’m crazy!) that following the battle that occured with the lawyers after the Aenima album, Tool was contractually obligated to release 3 albums under their current label. I’ve always counted Lateralus & 10,000 Days as the first two of the trio. So perhaps looking at it “contractually”, it is the last?
    Am I off the chart here? LOL!
    Well,  judging by MJK’s recent interviews, and just intuition, I think this will be Tool’s last album. You can see it in MJK’s performance in 2006 – present in comparison to their performances during the Aenima and Lateralus era, he just isn’t feeling it anymore. He almost makes a joke out his performance which kind of makes me angry. I don’t pay 150 – 200 bucks to see him make a joke out of their art. Point is, MJK just doesn’t appear to be into the music anymore, he almost makes out to be a burden. I think Maynard intends to retire from his “rockstar” persona, and make wine, and produce that Puscifer crap. Don’t get me wrong I love Puscifer, but Tool is where my heart is as far as Maynards projects and just the thought of no more Tool, makes me die a little inside, as Hellfire as all ready said.

  46. LucidiotNo Gravatar | May 6th, 2010 at 9:13 am

    Well,  judging by MJK’s recent interviews, and just intuition, I think this will be Tool’s last album. You can see it in MJK’s performance in 2006 – present in comparison to their performances during the Aenima and Lateralus era, he just isn’t feeling it anymore. He almost makes a joke out his performance which kind of makes me angry. I don’t pay 150 – 200 bucks to see him make a joke out of their art. Point is, MJK just doesn’t appear to be into the music anymore, he almost makes out to be a burden. I think Maynard intends to retire from his “rockstar” persona, and make wine, and produce that Puscifer crap. Don’t get me wrong I love Puscifer, but Tool is where my heart is as far as Maynards projects and just the thought of no more Tool, makes me die a little inside, as Hellfire as all ready said.

  47. LucidiotNo Gravatar | May 6th, 2010 at 9:31 am

    Oh, and one more thing. As far as “this is our last album, lets make it our best”. They’ve all ready accomplished that with Lateralus, NOTHING can top that, something even more amazing, brilliant, and beautiful than Lateralus is just not fathomable. Sorry

  48. royalredNo Gravatar | May 6th, 2010 at 10:07 am

    I don’t think it’s that Maynard doesn’t want to be there. I think it’s more about him getting older. Everyone expects him to be like he was in his twenties and thirties. Screaming at the top of his lungs and moving around like a nut case every night. It takes a toll after a while. That’s why the evolution of the stage, art and videos are so important, IMO. It takes a lot of the pressure off Maynard to “be” the show. Yeah, you don’t get the old Maynard, but you still get an amazing show!

  49. LucidiotNo Gravatar | May 6th, 2010 at 10:20 am

    I don’t think it’s that Maynard doesn’t want to be there. I think it’s more about him getting older. Everyone expects him to be like he was in his twenties and thirties. Screaming at the top of his lungs and moving around like a nut case every night. It takes a toll after a while. That’s why the evolution of the stage, art and videos are so important, IMO. It takes a lot of the pressure off Maynard to “be” the show. Yeah, you don’t get the old Maynard, but you still get an amazing show!


    Never really looked at it like that. Either way, I’m sure they won’t disappoint with their new album. Tool never fails. And true, Tool shows are always amazing.

  50. EuphonyNo Gravatar | May 9th, 2010 at 11:01 am

    If it means writing lighter songs, then by all means! I like Rosetta Stoned, though I’d love to see something like Pushit or H. or Lateralus or The Grudge or Sweat again. Overall, Lateralus was a very positive album, and many consider it to be their best. So if MJK doesn’t want to do angst, he doesn’t have to. I’ll still buy it! I think some people take Tool a little too seriously. If MJK wants to have some fun with it, why not? Though perhaps he got all the “Rosetta Stoned” type stuff out of his system with Puscifer.
    I don’t have any expectations, but I’m optimistic about it. People just can’t expect MJK to be all screaming and angry anymore. You wouldn’t want Tool to repeat their old sound, would you? And just look at Vicarious and Jambi. Those rocked just as hard as some of the old stuff.

  51. lordertaiNo Gravatar | May 20th, 2010 at 7:40 am

    i just hope Tool turns out to be a bit like Rush. Evolve with time, Maynard should ease off the high pitch screams and stage show abit for his own sanity, like Geddy has, and just learn to pace himself so the band can stay together and keep making good music. Work hard and dont force it and go with the times and what motivates you, like they both always have. And as for the long progressive tracks whether D/R/T, Rosetta Stoned or Cygnus , Bytor, or the Necromancer; they should focus their attention on shorter rock riff songs (like the pot or jambi) where you can still get the experience and so its easier for the rockers to perform day in and day out. Now dont get me wrong i love the progressive long tracks, and if they can comfortably and easily manage them sure do it, but remember at the end of the day us fans want a band we can appreciate and follow over time. Im sure they will BOTH deliver as always but at the end of the day i hope they are able to micromanage the big picture for all of us. just a musician and followers standpoint.
    ps, im hoping for something more like lateralus other 10kd
     

  52. hellboyNo Gravatar | May 20th, 2010 at 8:04 am

    i just hope Tool turns out to be a bit like Rush.

    As long as they don’t sound like Rush – man I hate that band…

  53. LucidiotNo Gravatar | May 20th, 2010 at 8:13 am

    i just hope Tool turns out to be a bit like Rush.

    As long as they don’t sound like Rush – man I hate that band…

    I have to agree with Hellboy. Rush is not on the top of my list. I think Tool should turn out like Tool. Tool has already evolved with time, in a their own way, and as far as easing of the high pitch screams…that’s him expressing the emotion of the song, and that’s part (to me at least) is why Tool is so amazing, they can capture those emotions and images and project them through their music so well. Tool is just Tool and i don’t think people should compare them to another band and I don’t think they should sound like another band because then it just becomes cheasy.

  54. 3rd eyeNo Gravatar | May 24th, 2010 at 2:52 am

    i just hope Tool turns out to be a bit like Rush. they should focus their attention on shorter rock riff songs (like the pot or jambi).

    Yea  lordertai lets have Tool and all the other talented bands make short rock riff songs so that they can all sound the same.  Just like all the mainstream crap we hear on the radio today! And how about they all use auto-tune on their voices… Yeaaa! wouldn’t that be great??

  55. AmnesiacNo Gravatar | May 28th, 2010 at 4:32 pm

    This time around, I want there to be more tribals. When I first read the track list for 10,000 Days, I was really hoping Lipan Conjuring was one of their longer songs, like Rosetta Stoned, and not just a segue.

  56. LucidiotNo Gravatar | May 28th, 2010 at 6:17 pm

    This time around, I want there to be more tribals. When I first read the track list for 10,000 Days, I was really hoping Lipan Conjuring was one of their longer songs, like Rosetta Stoned, and not just a segue.

    This time around I hope they do more songs like Diposition/Reflection/Triad type songs. Long, progressive, complex songs.

  57. bukNo Gravatar | May 28th, 2010 at 9:10 pm

    I know Blair said one of the works in progress sounded like “wings”.

    I’m picturing an album focussed on mortality and cataclysm, with a healthy dose of humour and sexuality blended in there.

    Musically, I hope they go more in the H. and Pushit direction, cuz the melodic songs on 10,000 Days seemed a little more natural than the grinding numbers, and they do both moods so well.

  58. 24lateralusNo Gravatar | June 3rd, 2010 at 5:36 pm

    all i know is, when it does come out, im buying the shit out of it. i also agree w/ lucidiot which stated: Oh, and one more thing. As far as “this is our last album, lets make it our best”. They’ve all ready accomplished that with Lateralus, NOTHING can top that, something even more amazing, brilliant, and beautiful than Lateralus is just not fathomable. Sorry.

    very true.

  59. ParadigmNo Gravatar | June 4th, 2010 at 12:50 am

    I will be very sad if this fifth album is Tool’s last. However, I know all the members in the band are well aware of what their cash cow is (hint:not their side projects). Not to mention Maynard’s penchant for blowing huge amounts of money making wine in the desert. So…I am hoping that they start releasing live stuff (DVD’s, CD’s) and wouldn’t be awesome if they did something like the Coheed and Cambria live box set? All albums played live on both DVD and CD. I think, though, that Maynard will never stop making music despite the demands it must take on his vocal cords (i.e. Puscifer and APC).

  60. ParadigmNo Gravatar | June 4th, 2010 at 12:52 am

    Also, my theory on the theme of this album is that it will be focused on being more self-sustained and less dependent on society. Also, I am thinking there will be lots of love/sex songs because Maynard is all tied down now.

  61. ParadigmNo Gravatar | June 4th, 2010 at 12:58 am

    HellFire – 4 weeks ago  » 

    royalred – 5 hours ago  » 
    I’m not so sure this will be their last album. I’m sure they don’t even know. People thought Lateralus was going to be the last, so who knows. I imagine it will all depend on MJK. It’s gonna be interesting to see what direction this album goes. Will it be more MJK friendly stuff like Wings and Right in Two or more grinding stuff like The Pot and Vicarious? Guess we shall see!

    I thought I read somewhere (or I’m crazy!) that following the battle that occured with the lawyers after the Aenima album, Tool was contractually obligated to release 3 albums under their current label. I’ve always counted Lateralus & 10,000 Days as the first two of the trio. So perhaps looking at it “contractually”, it is the last?
    Am I off the chart here? LOL!

    Maynard has said in interviews that they are contracted to create this fifth album. However, it will be the last album of their contract.

  62. ParadigmNo Gravatar | June 4th, 2010 at 1:01 am

    Lucidiot – 4 weeks ago  » 
    Well,  judging by MJK’s recent interviews, and just intuition, I think this will be Tool’s last album. You can see it in MJK’s performance in 2006 – present in comparison to their performances during the Aenima and Lateralus era, he just isn’t feeling it anymore. He almost makes a joke out his performance which kind of makes me angry. I don’t pay 150 – 200 bucks to see him make a joke out of their art. Point is, MJK just doesn’t appear to be into the music anymore, he almost makes out to be a burden. I think Maynard intends to retire from his “rockstar” persona, and make wine, and produce that Puscifer crap. Don’t get me wrong I love Puscifer, but Tool is where my heart is as far as Maynards projects and just the thought of no more Tool, makes me die a little inside, as Hellfire as all ready said.

    I think the perception that Maynard is not “into” the live performances is misinterpreted. I think that he has become a much more professional singer. And as he said- he can’t walk and chew gum. Meaning that his lack of bouncing around at the front of the stage is because he does not want to be distracted from vocal perfection. I think that if he did not care his vocal performances would suffer, which they have not at all.

  63. LucidiotNo Gravatar | June 4th, 2010 at 11:53 am

    Lucidiot – 4 weeks ago » Well,  judging by MJK’s recent interviews, and just intuition, I think this will be Tool’s last album. You can see it in MJK’s performance in 2006 – present in comparison to their performances during the Aenima and Lateralus era, he just isn’t feeling it anymore. He almost makes a joke out his performance which kind of makes me angry. I don’t pay 150 – 200 bucks to see him make a joke out of their art. Point is, MJK just doesn’t appear to be into the music anymore, he almost makes out to be a burden. I think Maynard intends to retire from his “rockstar” persona, and make wine, and produce that Puscifer crap. Don’t get me wrong I love Puscifer, but Tool is where my heart is as far as Maynards projects and just the thought of no more Tool, makes me die a little inside, as Hellfire as all ready said.

    I think the perception that Maynard is not “into” the live performances is misinterpreted. I think that he has become a much more professional singer. And as he said- he can’t walk and chew gum. Meaning that his lack of bouncing around at the front of the stage is because he does not want to be distracted from vocal perfection. I think that if he did not care his vocal performances would suffer, which they have not at all.

    I didn’t mean not into the music as in he doesn’t enjoy it, or being in the front of the stage. He just doesn’t appear to get into the music like he used to. He makes jokes out of his performance, it’s almost like he’s mocking the “rockstar” persona that most people perceive him as.

  64. AmnesiacNo Gravatar | June 5th, 2010 at 6:55 am

    If Maynard does not want to move around as much as he used to, he should just make some kind of stage performance out of that, similar to what was seen at A Perfect Circle shows: standing behind a curtain and singing. I am sure some extra props are easy to produce and I think it makes for a pretty cool visual.

  65. 24lateralusNo Gravatar | June 7th, 2010 at 10:27 am

    I BELIEVE THE 5TH WILL BE THE LAST. WATCH TILL END. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SM8BjLw87o

  66. hellboyNo Gravatar | June 7th, 2010 at 11:04 am

    I’m not convinced it will be their last. I think that they will probably slow down considerably, doing sporadic short touring, rather than 2 years of going non-stop, and release an album every now and then when it suits them, almost King Crimson style.

  67. jarredNo Gravatar | June 7th, 2010 at 8:48 pm

    Expect a release somewhere in late 2010 or early 2011….

    LOL Hellboy you’re slightly delusional.

  68. hellboyNo Gravatar | June 7th, 2010 at 8:54 pm

    Expect a release somewhere in late 2010 or early 2011…. LOL Hellboy you’re slightly delusional.

    Optimistic perhaps, delusional no.

  69. trevorj1stNo Gravatar | June 16th, 2010 at 6:35 am

    I am just going to say that you all have mostly valid conclusions but lets not forget that We love Tool because of the fact that they don’t turn into anything. one last thing. Those of you who expect tool to settle down I am very sorry to dissapoint you but I think the only thing you should expect is that MJK is only practicing his insanity more with Puscifer. Expect to see more of his own style continue strongly in the new album.

  70. SlingBladeNo Gravatar | June 16th, 2010 at 3:43 pm

    I just had to register to tell you all what horrible fans all of you are that think the next album will be their last. Those that wish their next album to be their last are even worse.

    Regarding the future of Tool, Keenan stated in a 2007 interview with Spin, “We’ll make music together until one of us is dead.”

    From; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maynard_James_Keenan

    Also, perhaps what Maynard regretted Revealing in Wings is how devout a Believer he is so obviously. He has quite a few non-believing fans that  he’s fooled into thinking he is like SCUM like them by cryptically working the Word into his lyrics as opposed to the direct approach.

    Set as I am in my ways and my arrogance.
    Burden of proof tossed upon non-believers.
    You were my witness, my eyes, my evidence,
    Judith Marie, unconditional one.

    Anyone that’s read Job and compared to the suffering his mother went through knows that it doesn’t get much more direct than that. Anyway, just a thought, and if I offended any atheists, GOOD!

  71. 24lateralusNo Gravatar | June 17th, 2010 at 5:56 am

    I just had to register to tell you all what horrible fans all of you are that think the next album will be their last. Those that wish their next album to be their last are even worse. Regarding the future of Tool, Keenan stated in a 2007 interview with Spin, “We’ll make music together until one of us is dead.” From; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maynard_James_Keenan Also, perhaps what Maynard regretted Revealing in Wings is how devout a Believer he is so obviously. He has quite a few non-believing fans that  he’s fooled into thinking he is like SCUM like them by cryptically working the Word into his lyrics as opposed to the direct approach. Set as I am in my ways and my arrogance. Burden of proof tossed upon non-believers. You were my witness, my eyes, my evidence, Judith Marie, unconditional one. Anyone that’s read Job and compared to the suffering his mother went through knows that it doesn’t get much more direct than that. Anyway, just a thought, and if I offended any atheists, GOOD!

    just because some people think that the 5th album may be their last does not make them “horrible fans” what so ever. i think it will “probably” be their last. that makes me a horrible fan? just because i think it could be their last, doesnt mean i have lost any faith in them, at all. they are still my fav. band by all means. and for the ppl. who you say “wish” it to be their last, who cares, because if thats the case, then they were never a fan to begin with. im going to have to respectivly disagree w/ you.

  72. kittaanNo Gravatar | June 17th, 2010 at 6:32 am

    @ 24lateralus – who were you quoting there? I don’t see that post anywhere, at least nothing recent. From the tone and the rampant delusion displayed, I have a suspicion of the TA member that wrote it though.

  73. SlingBladeNo Gravatar | June 17th, 2010 at 6:40 am

    just because some people think that the 5th album may be their last does not make them “horrible fans” what so ever. i think it will “probably” be their last. that makes me a horrible fan? just because i think it could be their last, doesnt mean i have lost any faith in them, at all. they are still my fav. band by all means. and for the ppl. who you say “wish” it to be their last, who cares, because if thats the case, then they were never a fan to begin with. im going to have to respectivly disagree w/ you.

    I think you misssed the part where Maynard is quoted as saying “We’ll make music together until one of us is dead.”

    I was overstating what horrible fans you guys are, but it is a bit surprising that none on a Tool fan sight has read Maynard’s wikipedia page.

    Their next could be their last album, but by all means all of you should hope to God it isn’t considering the event that would cause it to be their last.

  74. SlingBladeNo Gravatar | June 17th, 2010 at 6:44 am

    From the tone and the rampant delusion displayed…

    Mission accomplished!

    Salaam.

  75. bukNo Gravatar | June 17th, 2010 at 6:59 am

    From the tone and the rampant delusion displayed…

    Mission accomplished! Salaam.

    While he might have said that, you only have to listen to ‘Judith’ and ‘Wings for Marie’ back to back to realize how flaky maynard can be in his opinions.
    Your pompous holier than thou attitude is the reason why organized religion is so reviled among intelligent circles.
    ‘Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow’

  76. kittaanNo Gravatar | June 17th, 2010 at 7:25 am

    @buk – affirmative.

  77. SlingBladeNo Gravatar | June 17th, 2010 at 7:38 am

    From the tone and the rampant delusion displayed…

    Mission accomplished! Salaam.

    While he might have said that, you only have to listen to ‘Judith’ and ‘Wings for Marie’ back to back to realize how flaky maynard can be in his opinions. Your pompous holier than thou attitude is the reason why organized religion is so reviled among intelligent circles. ‘Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow’

    If I may, I will quote myself from another forum.

    “Fuck your god, your lord, your christ”

    Maynard either intended the lyrics to not be capitalized and is mocking Christians worship of the lucky maggot Jesus, or if capitalized, the claim that He is only the Christians’ Messiah, as if all those that don’t call themselves Christians don’t believe in Him or His purpose.

    And remind you that Judith is on the same album as “Rose”.

    LOL at “organized religion”, if you think Religion is organized now with all the division and confusion between Us, you ain’t seen nothin’ yet.

    Also, ironic you should meantion deaf, blind and dumb. You really think that just because you perceive Maynard’s lyrics as flaky and contradictory that they really are?

    John 8:47 He who belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.”

    Call that a pompous and Holier than thou attitude all you will, the Most High is Holier than us, deal with it.

    My apologies for quoting the Bible, as Maynard has made so obviously clear, His Word isn’t limited to the Bible so you can ignore it all you want. Listen to some Tool and dance for Us, intelligent circle. :P

  78. bukNo Gravatar | June 17th, 2010 at 12:02 pm

    From the tone and the rampant delusion displayed…

    Mission accomplished! Salaam.

    While he might have said that, you only have to listen to ‘Judith’ and ‘Wings for Marie’ back to back to realize how flaky maynard can be in his opinions. Your pompous holier than thou attitude is the reason why organized religion is so reviled among intelligent circles. ‘Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow’

    If I may, I will quote myself from another forum. “Fuck your god, your lord, your christ” Maynard either intended the lyrics to not be capitalized and is mocking Christians worship of the lucky maggot Jesus, or if capitalized, the claim that He is only the Christians’ Messiah, as if all those that don’t call themselves Christians don’t believe in Him or His purpose. And remind you that Judith is on the same album as “Rose”. LOL at “organized religion”, if you think Religion is organized now with all the division and confusion between Us, you ain’t seen nothin’ yet. Also, ironic you should meantion deaf, blind and dumb. You really think that just because you perceive Maynard’s lyrics as flaky and contradictory that they really are? John 8:47 He who belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.” Call that a pompous and Holier than thou attitude all you will, the Most High is Holier than us, deal with it. My apologies for quoting the Bible, as Maynard has made so obviously clear, His Word isn’t limited to the Bible so you can ignore it all you want. Listen to some Tool and dance for Us, intelligent circle. :P

     
    Maynard is human like the rest of us, and has shown through his songs that significant experiences in a person’s life can change your perception. This is my interpretation:
    Judith: Rage and frustration at his mother’s gratitude to a Christ who let her suffer;
    10,000 Days: After her death, he was inspired by her unshaking faith through years of suffering.
    I don’t think Maynard has embraced Christianity in any form, but has always hinted at belief in higher spiritual realms in his work.
    Oh, that’s right, he found Jesus early April a few years back!
    “When approached for comment on his recent encounter with the Son of God, Maynard said, “That guy’s a punk!”"
    This was in ’05, dude.

  79. bukNo Gravatar | June 17th, 2010 at 12:42 pm

    OK, upon re-reading I see you’re actually a Muslim, not a Christian. Funny that you’d call Jesus a ‘lucky maggot’, as mocking one religion is basically mocking all religion. It’s all the same ritualistic, superstitious ancient gibberish to me. But hey, whatever sizzles your sausage (halaal, of course).

  80. SlingBladeNo Gravatar | June 17th, 2010 at 1:24 pm

    OK, upon re-reading I see you’re actually a Muslim, not a Christian. Funny that you’d call Jesus a ‘lucky maggot’, as mocking one religion is basically mocking all religion. It’s all the same ritualistic, superstitious ancient gibberish to me. But hey, whatever sizzles your sausage (halaal, of course).

    LOL at the guy’s a punk. You’re damn right We are.

    You’re trippin’ dude. Just because I’m a Submitter to God’s Will doesn’t mean I’m not a Christian. Submission is Submission. That’s what Islam is, that’s what Jesus did/does and what His followers do if they’re following in His example. Funny an assumed disbeliever would try to persist the myth that We need remain divided.

  81. hellboyNo Gravatar | June 17th, 2010 at 1:25 pm

    Jesus Christ!

  82. kittaanNo Gravatar | June 17th, 2010 at 1:29 pm

    Don’t be religilous.

  83. SlingBladeNo Gravatar | June 17th, 2010 at 1:41 pm

    Don’t be religilous.

    You guys are asking for it, quit saying silly ignorant things mocking Us and I would not be compelled to correct.

  84. hellboyNo Gravatar | June 17th, 2010 at 1:44 pm

    Don’t be religilous.

    You guys are asking for it, quit saying silly ignorant things mocking Us and I would not be compelled to correct.

    Jesus will compel me to ban you soon.

  85. SlingBladeNo Gravatar | June 17th, 2010 at 1:56 pm

    Don’t be religilous.

    You guys are asking for it, quit saying silly ignorant things mocking Us and I would not be compelled to correct.

    Jesus will compel me to ban you soon.

    Ooh, oppression. Seriously the discussion was about Tool, how long they will make music together and the content of Maynard’s lyrics, how could Religion and Spirituality not come up and why the need to oppress those aspects when it does? Sure the Christian/Muslim thing was a tangent, but dude made a false assumption that I was one not the other.

  86. hellboyNo Gravatar | June 17th, 2010 at 1:58 pm

    Ooh, oppression.r.

    Yeah, this place is pretty much a dictatorship.  My reason for banning would be more about suppressing a pointless flame-war than denying you your religious rights.

    Keep it up and we’ll see what happens…

  87. lachrymologistNo Gravatar | June 17th, 2010 at 2:01 pm

    So……how bout those TOOLS, aren’t they making a new album soon?

  88. SlingBladeNo Gravatar | June 17th, 2010 at 2:13 pm

    So……how bout those TOOLS, aren’t they making a new album soon?

    That’s what I hear, as I was saying, let’s hope it’s not their last.

  89. kittaanNo Gravatar | June 17th, 2010 at 2:23 pm

    OK, how about I just fry up a mess of french fried po’taters, slather on the mustard, and we can all hunker down and start talking politics instead of religion? It was getting pretty boring anyway.

    Hellboy, you’re a funny admin, but in a very straight forward way, as opposed to some other, three initialed-type admins fond of obfuscation and big words. I like that about you.

  90. lachrymologistNo Gravatar | June 17th, 2010 at 2:29 pm

    I feel as though that TOOL, will as you said make music until a band member dies. However this album, #5 will be almost a climax of their collective creative genius. Everytone takes something different from TOOL, that is what makes them great. They have transformed into something incredible. I have seen this transformation as I also seem as though I have transformed as a person! I would like to post something that someone gave me at lolla last year after TOOL, it was actually a flier for a “NEW” mesage board for ppl who “GET IT”

  91. lachrymologistNo Gravatar | June 17th, 2010 at 2:34 pm

    “Tool gets a bad rap because of fans like the guy from ‘Hooker with a Penis’. Other Tool forums are too old and loads of hangers-on from Tool’s past as a much less complex angry metal band. These anger junkies try to force their dysfunction onto a band that has clearly moved on towards unity, spirituality, hope life affirmation, and triumpthant, soulful fury that rocks Heaven and Earth alike.”

    Just though I would share that

  92. hellboyNo Gravatar | June 17th, 2010 at 2:39 pm

    I would like to post something that someone gave me at lolla last year after TOOL, it was actually a flier for a “NEW” mesage board for ppl who “GET IT”

    What “new” message board was it referring to?

  93. lachrymologistNo Gravatar | June 17th, 2010 at 2:40 pm

    just read what i wrote , i dont mean to say that i get it bc i am mostly lost in wonderland in everyday life. I just mean to say look at it as a progression. I don’t know what I would do if TOOL didn’t make another album or play another show. I would probably cry myself to death! The said forum has since closed down I guess it couldn’t even make it a month, probably cuz the dude gave me 30 of his flyers. I will enjoy whatever it is that they give us!

  94. lachrymologistNo Gravatar | June 17th, 2010 at 2:41 pm

    It was a public forum called monkeywrench@freeforums.org

  95. hellboyNo Gravatar | June 17th, 2010 at 2:46 pm

    It was a public forum called monkeywrench@freeforums.org

    There are too many Tool forums in this world. I’m not sure why someone would want to start a new one.  The only reason there is one here on Fourtheye was due to the begging of Toolarmy members who really wanted somewhere they could post, and there was already a community in place at Fourtheye to support it.  I can’t imagine anyone creating a new forum as a basis of their site having much success.

  96. lachrymologistNo Gravatar | June 17th, 2010 at 2:48 pm

    and i definately didn’t mean to imply “Look at this website!” You are THE SOURCE FOR TOOL RELATED INFO!

  97. hellboyNo Gravatar | June 17th, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    and i definately didn’t mean to imply “Look at this website!” You are THE SOURCE FOR TOOL RELATED INFO!

    I understand, I’m just curious as to why someone would go to the expense/trouble of actually printing and distributing a flyer for their website.

  98. SlingBladeNo Gravatar | June 17th, 2010 at 3:01 pm

    It was a public forum called monkeywrench@freeforums.org

    There are too many Tool forums in this world. I’m not sure why someone would want to start a new one.  The only reason there is one here on Fourtheye was due to the begging of Toolarmy members who really wanted somewhere they could post, and there was already a community in place at Fourtheye to support it.  I can’t imagine anyone creating a new forum as a basis of their site having much success.

    It was a long shot considering Maynard is quoted on his wikipedia page (again):

    Tool does not include lyrics with any releases as Keenan believes most people “don’t get it” and it is not a priority of the band that people do.

    The guy would probably have had better luck posting a topic here. Either that or just instigate a “pointless” flame war, LOL.

  99. hellboyNo Gravatar | June 17th, 2010 at 3:03 pm

     Tool does not include lyrics with any releases as Keenan believes most people “don’t get it” and it is not a priority of the band that people do. .

    Personally I interpret all Tool lyrics literally.

  100. lachrymologistNo Gravatar | June 17th, 2010 at 3:04 pm

    Your guess is as good as mine? Free Forum? idk I didn’t get a chance to post much. Flyers were about 3.5in/ 6in paper one side with information other side with indian chief and eagles with Falkor the luckdragon the creature from The Neverending Story at the bottom?

  101. lachrymologistNo Gravatar | June 17th, 2010 at 3:05 pm

    I am glad I don’t get ALL my info from Wikipedia

  102. SlingBladeNo Gravatar | June 17th, 2010 at 3:20 pm

    I am glad I don’t get ALL my info from Wikipedia

    I checked their for news on the next release and ended up here awhile back… Don’t get it twisted, I get most of my info from the music, but other sources are good for news on upcoming albums and such of course.

  103. trevorj1stNo Gravatar | June 18th, 2010 at 4:52 am

    Ok SlingBlade Just try to limit the Negative Nancy bullshit to a minimum please.

  104. 24lateralusNo Gravatar | June 19th, 2010 at 8:58 am

    im sooo diggin that bird hair pic.

  105. Jethro ToolNo Gravatar | June 19th, 2010 at 9:55 am

    So next album God, Love £ Wine? Must be enough subject matter… New DEVO album out too MJK and Adam must be delighted… Shame they cant muster anything as scary as the early video to Jocko Homo! 

  106. BenjaminNo Gravatar | June 29th, 2010 at 12:57 am

    What they might write they’re new songs about..

    http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/upcoming_releases/tool_eight_possible_subjects_for_new_songs.html

  107. oualtNo Gravatar | July 24th, 2010 at 6:18 am

    the people who are saying that maynard isn’t in to it anymore are complete fuck tards maynard is damn near 50 and is in to it even in 2006 you can see hes into it and for people saying that that havnen’t seen anything from there 2010 tour then your gay fucktards thats right gay fucktards (sorry about the language and the rude comments)
    not trying to make enemies here just can’t believe you cant see that

  108. oualtNo Gravatar | July 24th, 2010 at 6:19 am

    now check out the new intro to vicarious they played this tour its gotta be new material!!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ka109wfPJ4

  109. oualtNo Gravatar | July 24th, 2010 at 6:21 am

    and the one for 46&2http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g643IRIsaA&feature=related

  110. hellboyNo Gravatar | July 24th, 2010 at 10:17 am

    and the one for 46&2http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g643IRIsaA&feature=related

    Just FYI, that 46&2 intro has been in use since the Lateralus tour, and I’m not so sure the Vicarious one is new either.

  111. nonameNo Gravatar | July 24th, 2010 at 12:54 pm

    yep, i can attest to that. there were definitely a few new things but at the most were probably 60 seconds long. nothing to be that excited about imo.

  112. LucidiotNo Gravatar | July 25th, 2010 at 7:45 pm

    yep, i can attest to that. there were definitely a few new things but at the most were probably 60 seconds long. nothing to be that excited about imo.

    Yeah, I have to agree. I doubt a bunch of synth is “new material”. Maybe for an interlude or something, but who knows.

  113. budsyralliNo Gravatar | July 26th, 2010 at 3:46 am

    yep, i can attest to that. there were definitely a few new things but at the most were probably 60 seconds long. nothing to be that excited about imo.

    Yeah, I have to agree. I doubt a bunch of synth is “new material”. Maybe for an interlude or something, but who knows.

    new material during this intro…just listen to justin’s groove

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKJ3kUQ9yBc

  114. ParadigmNo Gravatar | July 26th, 2010 at 3:56 am

    budsyralli – 10 minutes ago  » 

    yep, i can attest to that. there were definitely a few new things but at the most were probably 60 seconds long. nothing to be that excited about imo.

    Yeah, I have to agree. I doubt a bunch of synth is “new material”. Maybe for an interlude or something, but who knows.

    new material during this intro…just listen to justin’s groove
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKJ3kUQ9yBc

    Sounds awesome!

  115. boom.boxNo Gravatar | July 26th, 2010 at 4:01 am

    I climbed around and found a good spot to listen to the soundcheck for Red Rocks night #2. After rehearsing Intension, Right in Two, and Flood, they played something very interesting for about a minute or two. I can’t say for sure it was new material, but I had never heard it before, definitely not a cover… and it had a distinct “tool” sound. Ive been playing it over and over in my head hoping to hear it on the new album.

  116. ParadigmNo Gravatar | July 26th, 2010 at 4:06 am

    buk – 1 month ago  » 

    <blockquote cite=”http://www.fourtheye.net/tool-album-5/#comment-38409″>
    From the tone and the rampant delusion displayed…

    Mission accomplished! Salaam.

    While he might have said that, you only have to listen to ‘Judith’ and ‘Wings for Marie’ back to back to realize how flaky maynard can be in his opinions.
    Your pompous holier than thou attitude is the reason why organized religion is so reviled among intelligent circles.
    ‘Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow’

    Judith seems to me to be more about Maynard’s anger over the fact that his mother was injured and paralyzed. He is saying- look where religion got you- look what god is doing for you now- nothing. But then Wings is a song about how great his mother was- more genuine and better than pseudo-pious fake people who use religion to prey on others. IMO, this is not at all opposing points of view- Maynard is no flake…

  117. ParadigmNo Gravatar | July 26th, 2010 at 4:06 am

    Paradigm – 15 seconds ago  » 

    buk – 1 month ago  » 

    <blockquote cite=”http://www.fourtheye.net/tool-album-5/#comment-38409″>
    From the tone and the rampant delusion displayed…

    Mission accomplished! Salaam.

    While he might have said that, you only have to listen to ‘Judith’ and ‘Wings for Marie’ back to back to realize how flaky maynard can be in his opinions.
    Your pompous holier than thou attitude is the reason why organized religion is so reviled among intelligent circles.
    ‘Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow’

    Judith seems to me to be more about Maynard’s anger over the fact that his mother was injured and paralyzed. He is saying- look where religion got you- look what god is doing for you now- nothing. But then Wings is a song about how great his mother was- more genuine and better than pseudo-pious fake people who use religion to prey on others. IMO, this is not at all opposing points of view- Maynard is no flake…

  118. oualtNo Gravatar | August 1st, 2010 at 12:51 am

    hellboy i have to say i know they have been playing the 46&2 one since 2001 but it still has a chance and they added to the vicarious intro its not the same as the previous tours

  119. oualtNo Gravatar | August 1st, 2010 at 12:52 am

    its just like how they played a part of wings before lateralus in 2002 and that was a long ways away from 10,000 days

  120. BellJHNo Gravatar | August 11th, 2010 at 2:21 am

    its just like how they played a part of wings before lateralus in 2002 and that was a long ways away from 10,000 days

    Im sorry but why would you even want the 46&2 intro to feature on the new album? It’s just a crappy piece of synth linking songs together…

    what could be new material from the 2010 tour is the Schism intro, check out the SF bootleg and tell me im wrong.

  121. inertiatic-wristNo Gravatar | August 11th, 2010 at 4:14 am

    I wish Maynard would just admit that he’s not into Tool anymore.

    It’s obvious his vineyard and Puscifer are his passion these days.

    I’d rather him call it a day with Tool than put out a heartless album with vocals by numbers.

    Maybe even the other guys should stay together, because they do have amazing chemistry, find a new (hungry) singer and call the band something else and put out music more frequently. Because I don’t think it’s so much the other guys holding up the album. At least from the bits and pieces of interviews I’ve seen here and there.

    If all of the wine and Puscifer wasn’t evidence enough that Tool was pretty far down on the priority list for Maynard, then starting up things with APC just after a successful Tool tour should be clear to everyone. To me it’s like a slap in the face. Not that I don’t like A Perfect Circle, I love them. But if he REALLY cared about Tool and putting an album out with them, wouldn’t he have taken all the experience of being fresh from a tour, playing with these guys every night, and use that energy to make a record?

    No, he’d rather stall more and do APC.

    That’s why as good as this most recent Tool tour was, I think it was yet another cash grab to fund his pet projects while the other Tool guys just wanted to be out doing SOMETHING if it wasn’t going to be doing the album.

    I love this band and want something to happen or just definitively say it won’t. Stop stalling and leading everyone on.

  122. nxrmNo Gravatar | August 11th, 2010 at 4:26 am

    Not that there’s really a set path…a defined structure…other than the approximate 5 year intervals…but…I wouldn’t bet on seeing a new album in spring of next year:

    In August of 2005 Blair was already posting pictures of the guys recording with Joe Barresi, and then the album hit in April 2006.

    Here we are…August 2010…hoping for an album next year…and…unless Blair and the band are keeping the recording process close to the chest this time around…it’s going to be a while before we have a new release.

    I’m not complaining…just speculating…preparing myself for a bit of a longer wait.

  123. Ns1No Gravatar | August 11th, 2010 at 4:30 am

    everyone in Tool says that MJK just drops in at the very end to add his vocals in

    It’s AJ/JC/DC that need assloads of time to get their parts right (esp. AJ, per AJ)

    “Adam Jones: We’re writing, we’re writing. It’s going a little slow. We’re trying to get our feet wet, just basically the three of us. Maynard’s been busy with his wine and his other band. That’s usually how it is – we’ll write and write, and then he comes in last and starts putting stuff in. It works, it is what it is and it works. It’s good. I love it

  124. contraptionNo Gravatar | August 11th, 2010 at 6:55 am

    I wonder if TOOL are considering experimenting with string instruments, other than guitars, this time around.

  125. markuspoopNo Gravatar | August 11th, 2010 at 7:16 am

    I think I read somewhere that Adam would love to use a Keytar on the next album.

  126. gnjasmkrNo Gravatar | August 11th, 2010 at 8:00 am

    Now that would be awesome! Lol

  127. hellboyNo Gravatar | August 11th, 2010 at 9:16 am

    I love this band and want something to happen or just definitively say it won’t. Stop stalling and leading everyone on.

    Stop reading too much into a bunch of frivolous Twitter posts

  128. SecretsaregoldenNo Gravatar | August 11th, 2010 at 10:30 am

    They are finishing the writing process and getting into the Studio sooner than later. That is from a more than reliable source. I am expecting something to come around April 2011 based on what I can gather. That is pretty much right on schedule.

    Expect a few shows to be played before we see the new album as well. Get excited…very excited!

  129. kittaanNo Gravatar | August 11th, 2010 at 10:37 am

    Hey, anybody remember the rumors about the TA resurrection (more likely it will be a Toolband redesign, and if we’re lucky they’ll let TA tag along in some way)…. wasn’t that supposed to be September this year?

  130. nxrmNo Gravatar | August 12th, 2010 at 12:35 am

    kittaan – 13 hours ago  » 
    Hey, anybody remember the rumors about the TA resurrection (more likely it will be a Toolband redesign, and if we’re lucky they’ll let TA tag along in some way)…. wasn’t that supposed to be September this year?

    I too recall that rumor…and that one about a video for “The Pot” as well…

    Ah…to be a Tool fan…

  131. tooldudeNo Gravatar | August 12th, 2010 at 1:00 am

    i remember hellboy saying something about september and toolarmy but personally i dont see a new TA happening anytime soon. this place is the new TA

  132. kittaanNo Gravatar | August 12th, 2010 at 1:43 am

    It’s right there on the front page, under rumors…

    Toolarmy busted! Will be back with a Toolband revamp pending Adam’s artwork (ETA September 2010)

    I forgot that Blair was essentially putting the blame for the delay on Adam getting off his ass with the artwork. There were a bunch of posts regarding this, and Thora even had a direct conversation with Blair at the Tater about it, where he apparently confirmed the above.

    But I agree that it doesn’t seem likely now. Again, I guess we’ll see.

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