Fear Inoculum leaks

Fear Inoculum leaks

As I’m sure many of you are aware, Fear Inoculum seems to have leaked onto the internet. A couple of quick things:

  • Please don’t post links to the leak in the comments section, they will be deleted
  • I don’t mind discussion about the leak, or thoughts on the album
  • Out of respect for the band and the process, I won’t be posting my thoughts here until Friday (I may discuss on the forum or Discord though
  • Not so keen on hearing people get on their high horses defending or talking up leaks.

Enjoy the release week my friends

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disog
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disog

11/10 nuff said

ziggy23
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ziggy23

What a night!!

Maynerd
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Maynerd

Almost finished the title track… then the real show begins.

Maynerd
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Maynerd

Are you listening, Hellboi?

bent eye
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bent eye

She’s a beauty. Culling Voices is the underdog here. Considering the length of the songs this album just flies by. Definitely worth the wait.

CaptBlood
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CaptBlood

Right O, I’m half cut from watching the Tiges and excited I’m also conflicted. How do I hear the leak? Should I? My physical copy is weeks away. Help.

bent eye
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bent eye

It’s not hard to find. My physical copy is weeks away as well, but if you can’t wait till Friday for it to hit streaming then go ahead.

Maynerd
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Maynerd

A well known leaks website has it. Funnily enough they have the word leaks in their web address.
Go figure…

Earthrocker
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Earthrocker

lols

Maynerd
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Maynerd

CCTrip. Let this album down so badly.
Just awful and completely kills the flow.
I removed it from iTunes. Never want to have to hear that again.

Earthrocker
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Earthrocker

Yep indeed. CCTrip will not be getting a tick on Spotify this Friday

Nostrenominon
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Nostrenominon

I thoroughly enjoyed CCTrip, I’m glad it wasn’t just the same as the live versions I’ve heard before. It was just 5 mins of pure Danny Carey, how could a tool fan not like that lol.

children
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children

Yeah I can see how drums solos are not really a person’s thing, and typically I am not into most drummers indulging in that type of thing, but this is Danny fucking Carey we are talking about. How you could delete something the greatest drummer of all time put his heart and soul into. Even if it does nothing for you, at the very least there is some really nice textures with the way the drums interact with the synthesizer. At least let it gel a little while before you decide it’s garbage.. sheesh..

Laos
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I agree – Do the right thing and pay for it. Fuck Piracy!

bent eye
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bent eye

I’m pretty certain that 99% of fans have pre ordered the physical copy.

Nostrenominon
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Nostrenominon

Yeah no doubt that everyone interested in pirating it is a tool fan, and if you’re a tool fan, you have already bought the album. I don’t really consider it piracy then. Also why do people have this lame idea in their heads that they can’t listen to a leak because it’s not the official date yet? ooh no tool is gonna be so sad. no.

Z-Werewolf
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Z-Werewolf

I bought two copies. I had no problem downloading the fucking leak. I’m also going to see them at Aftershock and if they come around to an arena with a VIP opportunity I’ll pay the $500 for the VIP no problem. Yeah… I deserve to be listening to this leak.

Naimed
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Naimed

I think it is sad that everything is spoiled and out in the open. It kills the surprise…

Nostrenominon
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Nostrenominon

what in the actual fuck are you even talking about? surprise? because it’s a few days later? I don’t understand people’s mentality on this issue. So what if it leaked? Just listen and enjoy, pay for the album don’t just steal it, but listen to it whenever. it literally doesn’t matter.

bent eye
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bent eye

Maynard sounds absolutely fantastic on this album. On my third spin and I can safely say that not only have the guys delivered on 13 years of anticipation, they’ve exceeded it.

Nostrenominon
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Nostrenominon

Who gives a shit if it leaked? It was going to be on streaming sites for free…in like 4 days. What is the big deal? I downloaded 10,000 Days a month before it was released and I fuckin loved every second of it, just like I’m about to do now with Fear Inoculum, and then in a few days I’ll have the physical copy that won’t matter because it doesn’t even have the segues on it like the album was intended. I actually have no idea why Tool even made a physical CD if they couldn’t put what they wanted… Read more »

Maynerd
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Maynerd

Should have been 2x CD set.

jsjudjsryjsyjs
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jsjudjsryjsyjs

Agree… I’m sure the experience is even better with the three extra songs.
And apparently they have a lot more material, at least Justin, Danny and Adam has been grooving a lot these years according to some interviews. Usually Maynard is the last guy in.

I have a feeling this is definitely not the last album.

Nostrenominon
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Nostrenominon

Maynard is always the last guy in because that’s how they like to do it, not because it takes Maynard longer to make his parts than the others. He’s bottlenecked by the other’s constant bickering and obsession with rewriting riffs and exploring every avenue and whatnot, from what I’ve read anyway.

jpanse15
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jpanse15

woow Invincible is even better as a Studio track!
not sure about Pneuma yet… (but cant say before more than 5 times listening
as title track grew on me too after a while)

nails
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nails

I am blown away.. I never thought this would happen.. I never thought that Tool or any other band for that matter would create an album that hit me harder than Aenima and undertow.. but this album is bananas.. And I have not even listened to 7empest yet..

DrKavorkian
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DrKavorkian

Nm

gtprina
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gtprina

#bummer
A few more days doesn’t matter. I’ll try and wait until Friday.

undertopiate
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undertopiate

Musical prophecy being fulfilled.



Aliens that observe us from distant planets: “We’ve been waiting too. Thanks, TOOL”

datm
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datm

Can someone PLEASE share the link?….TOOL fan since ’93, my son took his 3rd grade school picture in a TOOL shirt, was at the Birmingham show….

datm
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datm

Not pirating, I’ve pre-ordered 2 of the limited edition, will probably buy the regular CD….I just want my 13-year thirst to be quenched

datm
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datm

I understand not posting it publicly here but if there’s a way to PM here or I’ll give out my email address….PLEASE

skute
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skute
datm
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datm

Thank the both of you!!….I’ve never talked to y’all before but you 2 are my favorite fucking superheroes!!!

datm
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datm

I guess I’m gonna have to “join” Reddit?…not very technologically adept here….

nemesis
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nemesis

What’s your email?

datm
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datm

Can I PM?

datm
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datm

Trying to figure out exactly how to PM

nemesis
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nemesis

Haha, i don’t know how either??

datm
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datm
DrKavorkian
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DrKavorkian

Can you email me the link too ? Jakepenland5@gmail.com

Thank you

lucidcandle
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lucidcandle

Would you send it to my email? joshualeebrooks@yahoo.com

skute
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skute

Are you three with the emails all set?

Sent ( from avwilson). Now delete your email before you get flooded. Lol

BeyondZero
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BeyondZero

I think this is the issue with our society, as a whole, and the fact most of you have downloaded the leak attests to that. We live in an instant gratification state. We’re not willing to be patient and wait it out. Some how we feel entitled to have everything, NOW. If you don’t download it, the market wont be there for this person to steal someone’s work. But increasing their downloads demonstrates stealing is acceptable. Regardless if youve purchased a copy, how do you think the creators of this music would feel if they found out you illegally downloaded… Read more »

Maynerd
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Maynerd

Great speech. Yawn.

bent eye
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bent eye

Double yawn

skute
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skute

What exactly would waiting the 5 days accomplish that makes it a better choice ?

jcx
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jcx

streaming revenue for the bands hard work

skute
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skute

Jcx, was that an answer to my question? Because even using the words streaming and revenue is this regard is laughable. Look into it. But let’s pretend there is a profit to be made in …..streaming revenue for the band. They got millions of streams for songs that have been out for a decade +. I doubt the leak is going to make much of a difference. Additionally the original poster was trying to make the point that even if you supported the band by preordering the album, which you know 98% of the people in here did, it was… Read more »

Koby3663
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Koby3663

I agree 13 years, 5 days VS. 13 years, 5 months… not much different!

I might take the ultimate challenge and wait to listen to it when it comes out on vinyl!!!

undertopiate
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undertopiate

As a person who values the ability to delay gratification, I agree and I get your point.

I indulged. But, believe me … I possess the strength to have not.

As for my justification; it only takes 1 car crash on August 29th to prevent someone from hearing the album.

redux
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redux

By distributing the CDs to retailers before the release date, I am pretty sure they where aware of the high risk of leaking. The consequences are not that bad, I guess. It will be available for free on Spotify++ anyways. And, most fans have already purchased one or several copies, I would guess.

Nostrenominon
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Nostrenominon

Dude, it’s 2019. If you think that Tool is going to be surprised by anyone “illegally” downloading their album, you’re an idiot. THEIR ENTIRE CATALOG INCLUDING THEIR NEW ALBUM IS FREE. Do you no understand streaming platforms? There is no stealing anymore. There is no such thing as “illegal” downloading, when the band is releasing it on streaming for free anyway. If Tool was smart, they would be excited to know that everyone is still downloading their leaks because we’re excited. If nobody was downloading the leak, then Tool might need to worry. Some intelligent bands use piracy to their… Read more »

datm
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datm

Bring it!

CaptBlood
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CaptBlood

I’m waiting it out, I’ve pre-ordered a couple of copies but my moral compass says wait it out. Hopefully it’ll be a better experience.

disog
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disog

If you are in Balmain (you said tiges fan) I can hook you up

CaptBlood
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CaptBlood

Richmond Tigers. It’s cool dude, thanks anyway. I’ve always paid for tunes. Hopefully Utopia records gets it here pronto.

datm
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datm

Story of my life…..tried twice to register (including CC info and all that)….2 phone calls back-to-back (my phone hasn’t rang since Fri afternoon, a bit introverted here)….go to register a 3rd time, and it tells me I need to contact support, which (of course) isn’t open…..fml…thanks anyway y’all

disog
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disog

Register what? Don’t be giving your CC details out to get hold of the leak – hope you are talking pre-order

skute
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skute

Dude what are you trying to purchase ? Alright I’m going to send you a link to my google drive. Stand by it’s still uploading

Edit:sent

Wasted_Wizard
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Wasted_Wizard

Just started listening. on invincible and its already awesome!

bent eye
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bent eye

Anyone have a fave song yet? I’m going to go with Pneuma. It’s like Schism and The Patient rolled into one and then mixed with what Tool is doing on 2019. Absolutely outstanding.

DrKavorkian
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DrKavorkian

I think descending is one of the more epic tool songs . Up there with lateralus and reflection . Tempest is pretty heavy . But my favorites always evolve with tool .

disog
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disog

The second half of Descending is so fricking epic! Culling voices is right up there, hell its all great.

bent eye
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bent eye

You’re right. It’s all great. Man, the studio version of Descending is a face melter, as is 7empest. This album is truly next level Tool. They’ve really outdone themselves.

skute
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skute

I’ve only gone through it once but that was a real stand out for me as well

sularetal
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sularetal

I second Pneuma – one of Tool’s best. What an album, though…

lettherabbitswearglasses
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lettherabbitswearglasses

I still can’t figure out how or where to get the download. Could someone pm me and help a brother out?

MegaGil08
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MegaGil08

Ditto on this. I have it preordered but I’d love to join in on the moment so to speak.

Maynerd
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Maynerd

Just type Kingdom Leaks into google. Jesus you people are hopeless.
If you come back saying “Now what do I do?” You need to give up on the internet because you are terrible at it.

bent eye
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bent eye

I was going to reply with this but wasn’t sure if rules allowed. Oh well, good on ya for helping them out LOL

datm
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datm

Finally getting home….making a few drinks and immersing myself….thanks to all that helped me out….will check in later….

itoolizer
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itoolizer

PNEUMA: HOLY FUCKING SHIIIIIIIT!

itoolizer
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itoolizer

Currently picking my face off the floor, due to the melting of it off my skull!

sularetal
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sularetal

What a time to be alive … absolutely epic album. Thank you, TOOL!!!

tool
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tool

I cried during some songs, in particular Culling voices. This has, absolutely, without a doubt, exceeded all my expectations. Unbelievable. What a masterpiece! I am totally overwhelmed. No words. This is insane. The mixing is perfect. It pays hommage to every other album. How on earth did they pull this off?

I love it.

Buy the album!

PUSHER
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PUSHER

Don’t you dare point that at me!

bent eye
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bent eye

Evil Joes production is out of this world. Every member gets a chance to shine and be heard. None of that loudness crap from 10K Days either. Just crystal clear music.

tool
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tool

I saved a small smokey cone for the very first listen. Incredible experience. Next day now and a sober 5 listens later – this may just become my new favorite album.

They fucking nailed it.

Maynerd
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Maynerd

The story of what is now being called the greatest album leak of all time has been made into a video.
I was lucky enough to witness it all unfolding on Reddit at the time, and it was extremely riveting.
I recommend everyone view the video…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIwR3dN6Id0&list=FL76XEjwC8H2d2x4LalDx8Rw&index=2&t=0s

bent eye
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bent eye

It truly was epic, granted I jumped in when he posted the pic of him in his car holding the CD, but the vibe in the chats was damn exciting. I thought at one stage near the end we were being rick rolled, but he pulled through.

disog
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disog

Yeah I’ll prob never use Reddit again, but man that was like a real-time heist caper unfolding. Very exciting and the goods came through. Stoked!

datm
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datm

Just got done with first listening (ok, I listened to “Culling Voices” 3 times, it matches where I am at this particular point in life)…I am not disappointed in the least….incredible…..again, thanks to those who helped me hear it (or attempted to)….I really needed SOMETHING good to get me out of every day life and this was absolutely it….I don’t do social media or anything (tried it, failed miserably because everyone in other forums have their little cliques and it’s difficult to break into these “friendships” but I digress)….my existence was actually acknowledged here so I’ll check in periodically….thanks again,… Read more »

disog
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disog

Glad you are enjoying it. Make sure you buy the album come 30th.

datm
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datm

Hey y’all….this isn’t an album, it’s an EXPERIENCE…..everything I’ve been waiting for and wanting and so much more!….I don’t have a favorite, it’s damn near mental nirvana….

sularetal
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sularetal

Agreed!

DJBeSSeR
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Musically awesome, I was a bit sad when Maynard sounded like Daft Punk at some point in one of the songs 🙁

maynardsluvchild
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maynardsluvchild

I’m enjoying the new track more and more each time I listen to it. I haven’t listened to the remainder of the album since it leaked, but I’m sure it will be amazing. I pre-ordered the cd weeks ago. Anybody heard when the vinyl edition will be released? I’ve called around to the local record stores, and they have no idea if or when it will be available.

Maynerd
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Maynerd

That’s months away…

Z-Werewolf
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Z-Werewolf

I’m seeing a lot of excitement here. What’s the quality like on the leak? I’ve checked out some leaks in the past and quality always suffered.

As for Mr. Maynerd… You sound excited about this and I’m glad to see some positivity coming from you! I totally get the “Chocolate Chip Trip” sentiment although I feel I’ll be just fine with it myself.

I already pre-ordered two copies so I won’t feel bad listening to a leak at all.

disog
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disog

320 kbps – top notch for a leak

adoxnz
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adoxnz

Uhh mine is in ALAC. Who would leak Tool in a lossy format. The 320 is there but so is flac / alac

Melchizedek
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Melchizedek

It’s a good album. You can tell that Maynard was not present during the writing process at all, but it’s a good album and I’m glad it’s out.

Z-Werewolf
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Z-Werewolf

Umm… He’s usually not there for the writing process so it’s nothing out of the ordinary here. Not sure what you’re getting at. Are you not happy with his contribution here?

Melchizedek
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Melchizedek

I’m happy with his contributions when they happen. He’s become progressively less a part of the process as time goes on, and I think it creates some vocal droughts in some of the songs. Not his fault as he does a good job with what he’s given. Hard to put vocals over some of the highly technical bits that can drag on at times. You saw less of that when he was more involved. Like I said good album, but I think the songs would benefit from him being there. Just my opionion.

Z-Werewolf
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Z-Werewolf

“Invincible” and “Descending” are incredible in their studio format… Unbelievable… “Pneuma” = Incredible… Working through the rest… Worth the fucking wait already though.

Z-Werewolf
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Z-Werewolf

Oh fuck! “7empest” just started…. Oh my!!! Fucking hell! A lot of Undertow vibes going on right off the bat. Adam is really shining here!

adoxnz
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adoxnz

Pneuma is the highlight for me at the moment. Fucking. Wow. Production, incredible. This is the best they’ve sounded. Danny has gone another level. I do miss Maynard’s aggression. But his melodies are phenomenal. In some ways I think this is their best work yet – quite obviously so. Immediately more likeable that 10kd was. It’s definitely their sound, evolved. I think the only thing I miss is some of the rawness from Aenima (even 10kd has it more)… But that is me and what I want, you can’t really judge music by what isn’t there retrospectively. There is a… Read more »

bent eye
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bent eye

Pneuma is the standout track for me. It’s incredible.

Z-Werewolf
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Z-Werewolf

Pneuma is fantastic that’s for sure. 7empest is mind blowing though.

As for your remark in contrast to 10,000 Days… I don’t think we’d be able to appreciate Fear Inoculum if we didn’t spend time interpreting and soaking in the content from 10,000 Days.

This album is beastly and just such a different animal than anything they’ve ever done. You can really hear the growth and maturity but you can also hear them drawing from the past as well. They are on full display here it’s fucking insane.

adoxnz
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adoxnz

Yeah comparisons are so subjective. I love 10KD, it took me awhile to love it though.

Whereas this new one is just. Jaw dropping. Immediately. AND I am liking it progressively more each listen.

I agree. There’s a great balance of their past work all rolled up into the next level.

Invincible I’ve only just heard, unlike most of you. Its also a monster. 7empest is going to take me awhile to unpack I think. Some of Adams chops on it are fucking unreal (you know the ones)

Z-Werewolf
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Z-Werewolf

I thought the same thing about invincible… Jesus it’s a beast. The live recordings do no Justice. 10,00 Days was also hard for me to digest as well. Coming off of Lateralus I felt I was cheated in some way. But now it holds its own as its own. But this monster… What are we to do with ourselves now… Ponder the abyss… I don’t know if we’ll ever get more from them at this point and will we ever be satisfied if that’s the case? They are the Pink Floyd of our time. However, I’d argue that TOOL have… Read more »

bent eye
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bent eye

It took me a LOT of spins for 10,000 Days to click with me. Once it did though I fell in love with it and it’s definitely one of my fave albums. Fear Inoculum only took about 3 listens for me to love it. I think it’s a monster of an album.

itoolizer
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itoolizer

There is only one terrible, haunting thought that I have after hearing this masterpiece… How long will we have to wait for the next one! This album, in all its glory, leaves me pining for more! I can’t help it, it’s soooooooo fucking good!

Z-Werewolf
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Z-Werewolf

Dude….. don’t even go there. Let’s just spend time with this one for now and be content. The wait is over.

Whisp
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Whisp

Loving the album so far. I was super critical on the first listen, but I’ve come round. Based on the early press reviews, Culling Voices was a real surprise favourite. However; I reckon on ‘Invincible’ they maybe should have cut out from 6:52 to 10:52. Made the track a little tighter. Then in a year or so of touring they throw that in as an extended live version. It’s possible they jammed on it for so long they wanted their ‘extended’ versions to be on the album and so here we are. Also I’ve had my doubts over the mix…… Read more »

disog
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disog

Whats the bit rate or file size you have? I haven’t noticed any of the issues you claim above

Z-Werewolf
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Z-Werewolf

I haven’t heard any clipping either. Honestly I expected there to be some quality issues as there usually are with almost any leak. So far no issues though.

Whisp
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Whisp

My source was one of the first from the discord while it was happening – wetransfer. The files were a weird false .mp3 that I converted to .wav in VLC… I’ve since tried converting them to regular .mp3 and ALAC in iTunes with no better result. Did you guys check the times I specified and not hear the distortion? Also I don’t need specifics, but are you listening through a car sound system, headphones, speakers?

Edit: I didn’t mention bitrate or file size because the conversions obviously change them. The original download was about 450MB (archived) though.

disog
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disog

Yeah I started with the wetransfer rar which played on VLC but I needed files for my car so got an update by the usual means (450mb)- listening via Bose headphones or in the car bang n olufsen speakers. Would love FLAC but sounds great.

redux
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redux

You are right, there is some distortion. Hopefully it is the rip.

Whisp
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Whisp

Yeah just got it again from a different site, even though I’m sure there was only one source. Still distorted. The fact that it’s only 450mb is kind of telling, seeing as that is way too small for a high quality rip, especially of this length.

bent eye
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bent eye

My copy sounds just fine

Whisp
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Whisp

Maybe I should rephrase the distortion… The sound is more similar to the crack and pop when playing a vinyl record, but this is consistent when certain levels get too high throughout the album. I almost feel like the retard who ripped it, took it at 128kbps and then it has been falsely ‘up-scaled’ via conversion.

adoxnz
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adoxnz

There is no way its a 128 reconvert. That would be obvious.

I’m listening in an acoustically treated room on high end monitors… Not hearing the things you speak of..?

I’ve noticed its mastered quietly (compared to modern standards). Bravo to that.

I wouldn’t worry about the issue anyway… Evil Joe and Bob Ludwig … Reasonably experienced pros

Whisp
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Whisp

The 128 was tongue-in-cheek. At least you understood the severity of what I’m saying though.
As I said previously, the verse 12:46 in 7empest showcases what I’m talking about. It’s a fuzzy hiss, and notable as this is comparatively not a loud part of the record. I’ve listened to it through many speakers, cars, headphones… two different files (same source I assume) and it’s still there.

Whisp
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Whisp

as in listen to that whole section 12:45 to 13:22, turn it up loud.. 13:08 & 13:14 being some of the louder fuzz offending moments… I want to sincerely say that it’s my rip. Though I’m 99% positive we all have the same source files, meaning if you’re listening for it (though it’s frustratingly obvious to me) you should hear it. Again, these moments are dotted throughout the rest of the album.

MegaGil08
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MegaGil08

I went in assuming that it would be the bass or guitar. That distortion starts with the drum part coming in so I think it has to do with the rip quality.

lumps
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lumps

I really liked the new album. I honestly believe its their best to date.
Very well done Tool.

aflietstra
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aflietstra

I feel that. I think it’s definitely up there. Without a doubt, it is a masterpiece.

adoxnz
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adoxnz

I agree. Masterclass

redux
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redux

This is an album for fans who are patient (which I guess most of us are after 13 years). I spent 5-6 full rounds before I was able to “get it”. This is not Ænima with “to-the-point” and “easy going” songs. However, the album is very complete, and there is no boring parts like with 10k days (which is a EP with some pause music). It may not be better than Lateralus (I am not sure – if you care ask me in 10 years), but it is their most complete and coherent album ever in my honest opinion. This… Read more »

Whisp
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Whisp

I can agree with a lot of what you are saying. Pretty good overview I think. Referencing my earlier post though, I still take a little problem with Justin’s levels being too low at some points while Adam is definitely at the forefront a lot of the time (coming from a guitarist). Also the drums can be very muddy, with cymbals on some tracks being heavily gated. But yes, the overall soundscape is very well done.

bent eye
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bent eye

This is a spot on review. Besides 7empest, this isn’t your rock out Tool album, and I’m perfectly fine with that. It definitely leans to the quieter side but is so compelling in that Tool way.

adoxnz
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adoxnz

I disagree that the drums are in the background, they’re mixed nice and full to my ears. The drum mix seems perfect to me.

Maynard is quiet for a vocal.

Adam maybe a shade too loud in parts. Justin sometimes a bit quiet.

The overall processing and soundstage. I agree, incredibly good.

redux
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redux

Agree. To be more specific, I didn’t mean that the drums are not full or not present – but they are well placed in the soundstage. However I also agree with whisp that they sometimes are a bit muddy. This could be the rip offs fault, there are some distortion as well on loud volum.

bent eye
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bent eye

I think Maynards contributions are fine. Hes obviously made a choice to not sing all the way through some tracks, ie Descending but he’s prominent enough for me. I love what he’s done. Considering he’s front and center for two other bands he’s pulled back here to let the others shine

aflietstra
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aflietstra

I appreciate that he didn’t fill every nook and cranny with growls and screams like the old days and just sang beautifully on crucial moments and let the band take over on on some of the heavier moments.

Whisp
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Whisp

Even though the vocals come second to me, I will say that initially I missed his triumphant moments in the climax of songs.. it’s still there on some… though the more I listen and digest the music does just fine.

Maynerd
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Maynerd

Can you give me one example of a Tool song where Maynard fills every ‘nook and cranny’ with growls and screams? They aren’t Korn or Slipknot, and even those bands have sections in almost all of their songs where there are no vocals…

aflietstra
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aflietstra

I am very happy with this album. I am glad I lived to hear it. It’s beyond incredible. 10/10

sularetal
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sularetal

I’m 42 years old and I have thought from time to time … will I live to hear new music from TOOL? Happily, yes…

Maynerd
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Maynerd

2 or 3 years ago I was suspecting that there would be some kind of announcement that the band had decided to cut their losses and were going their own seperate ways.
It seems from recent interviews that this had crossed their minds.

rushtoolman
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rushtoolman

Fuuuuuuck seeing all these reviews……. I wanna fucking hear this Friday!

tOOLNZ
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tOOLNZ

It’s fucking fantastic. It’s all i hoped for and more. I can’t wait to hear it live in NZ next year!!! worth the wait. thank you such a community here!

PUSHER
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PUSHER

Wonder why Adam or Maynard haven’t said anything yet.

Nostrenominon
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Nostrenominon

said anything about what? as if the album leaking is some kind of worry or surprise to them?

Z-Werewolf
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Z-Werewolf

Yeah I think I’m going to remove CCTrip from the playlist all said and done. It was great to see it live and will still be great to see it live but I don’t think that has any business on the album. Everything else… “HULK SMASH!!!!!” Amazing.

Nostrenominon
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Nostrenominon

i can understand removing Faaip de oaid from a playlist but CCTrip is danny carey being the most danny carey he can be for 5 minutes straight, I can’t for the life of me understand how any actual Tool fan or music fan, or musician, could not like that track of demonic summoning. Oh well you know what they say, “The lips of wisdom are closed…” I’ll let you finish the rest.

bonzer5
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bonzer5

Love CCTrip. A refreshing ‘out’ moment on an otherwise tightly scripted narrative. Would take a whole album of DC+synth. It may make more sense to people with all the segues in place.

Z-Werewolf
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Z-Werewolf

Maybe I gotta give it more time I dunno. It’s just not doin it for me. Feels like an unnecessary interruption. If DC+Synth were its own separate album sure I’d listen to it on its own but in this context I dunno. Doesn’t sit right with me. Time will tell.

Whisp
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Whisp

Maybe as it’s the currently the only segue we have, you find it jarring and out of place? I must say it’s exactly what I wanted out of a DC only track, and a good cousin to Merkaba.

children
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children

Yeah I am digging CC but I can see how at this point, it being the only segue, that it can seem kinda pointless when all of the songs have no interruptions between them. I still feel that it fits just fine in it’s place on the album as is. Excited for the other three tracks!

adoxnz
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adoxnz

Yeah I disagree! I think it’s a great piece, that allows a showcase of Danny going crazy – in a way which wouldn’t work with the others.

I find it interesting that you’re basing your opinion on an incomplete leak. Without segues… But each to their own 😛

Z-Werewolf
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Z-Werewolf

I’ll give it time.

Maynerd
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Maynerd

It’s god awful and sounds like something you’d record when testing mic placement on the drums, and synth connections.
If it had some redeeming qualities like some kind of voiceover, or speaking sample like Lost Keys, that would have helped it.
I successfully predicted it being awful a few threads ago when I saw it in the tracklist and UNBELIEVABLY it was even WORSE than I could have imagined.
I thought other members may have added sounds/effects to it which they really should have done.

adoxnz
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adoxnz

*I think* it’s god awful.

*I think* if it had some redeeming qualities

*I successfully predicted my own opinion*

See how easy it is to not state your opinion as facts? You’re welcome xo

Maynerd
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Maynerd

I didn’t say ‘I know’. I said ‘I think’.
Hence it’s my opinion.
Smh.

biff22
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biff22

But you didn’t say “I think”. You said “it is”. Full declarative.

Maynerd
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Maynerd

Oh… yeah. I guess I’m just 100% right on this one.

skute
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skute

Fucking christ. We know it’s his opinion we have more than 2 brain cells.

bent eye
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bent eye

I like CCTrip to a degree but I easily skip it. It kills the flow of the album.

adoxnz
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adoxnz

On my 6th listen through this morning.

I think this is their best album (for me personally, if not objectively). I never felt that about 10K, as much as I do love that album.

This shit is melting me down and I haven’t even Rosetta tested it yet 😉

DrKavorkian
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DrKavorkian

I agree . Upon a few listens , this album has became my favorite . Theme, music , lyrics and all . They are showing a vulnerability that I’ve never seen from them . So I don’t mind that there isn’t any screaming .. apparently Mjk has grown and moved through or away from that . Regardless , I do feel this is a lateralus- esque masterpiece with “Descending “ being one of their best songs in their catalogue . Just excited at where they are and I don’t think they are through creating music together