blacksabbath wrote:I'm living in a van for the next couple weeks
Please tell me it's down by the river.... That reminds me... I really want to see that Chris Farley doco.
Bill Hilly wrote:I will lay sod for you if Tool doesn't have an album out before Trump is elected.
Is that some kind of euphemism?
Re: The Grudge (WARNING: Lawn Mowers!)
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 4:39 am
by Bill Hilly
More than not.
Re: The Grudge (WARNING: Lawn Mowers!)
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 2:39 pm
by xZ1mM3r
Bill Hilly wrote:I will lay sod for you if Tool doesn't have an album out before Trump is elected.
Hahaha, I like you.
Re: The Grudge (WARNING: Lawn Mowers!)
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 7:12 pm
by blacksabbath
hellboy wrote:
blacksabbath wrote:
I'm pretty sure they have been stringing us along with this album release. But if you feel differently that's fine. Glad to know you mowed some of your lawn.
I don't disagree that they've been stringing us along. Calling them liars is a strong term though. I just don't agree when people consider Danny saying something like "we plan to be in the studio by the end of the year" deliberately deceptive.
There's a whole bunch of things that don't seem right in regards to this latest album. Something is or has been wrong within the band, either it's extreme laziness, some kind personal problems, writers block or all of the above.
But he's not being entirely honest either. He probably knows that they won't be in the studio by the end of the year, even if he hopes to be. Just like when you told your wife you would mow the lawn "soon", you knew it would be a couple of weeks before you actually did. And then you only mowed half of it. If it makes you feel better, I'll say that neither you or tool are lying, but there is a lack of honesty and disclosure. If that still bugs you I'll call you both Abraham Lincoln.
Re: The Grudge (WARNING: Lawn Mowers!)
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 7:14 pm
by dickleiper
hellboy wrote:
There's a whole bunch of things that don't seem right in regards to this latest album. Something is or has been wrong within the band, either it's extreme laziness, some kind personal problems, writers block or all of the above.
couldnt agree more with you here hellboy!. I have suspected this for a while now. we get weeks/months of nothing from them, and you start to think that maybe, they have been busy at work and will drop a bombshell and release the damn thing. but, nope..nothing. Something is wrong in the land of Tool.
Anyone remember Mog? he called it back in 2011-12 - that Tool were bullshiting us and we wouldnt get anything until at least 2016, if ever.. Bet, he is having a laugh...wherever he is.
The Grudge (WARNING: Lawn Mowers!)
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 7:14 pm
by blacksabbath
Kittaan wrote:
blacksabbath wrote:I'm living in a van for the next couple weeks
Please tell me it's down by the river.... That reminds me... I really want to see that Chris Farley doco.
Bill Hilly wrote:I will lay sod for you if Tool doesn't have an album out before Trump is elected.
Is that some kind of euphemism?
I wish I was down by the river or the ocean since I'm so close, but it's in this massive concrete slab called, San Jose. Waiting on a meditation retreat to start.
Re: The Grudge (WARNING: Lawn Mowers!)
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 7:17 pm
by Bill Hilly
Don't worry man. I'm sure all your questions/concerns will be answered when they either:
a. Can the album
b. Release the album
Re: The Grudge (WARNING: Lawn Mowers!)
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 7:35 pm
by Bill Hilly
dickleiper wrote:
couldnt agree more with you here hellboy!. I have suspected this for a while now. we get weeks/months of nothing from them, and you start to think that maybe, they have been busy at work and will drop a bombshell and release the damn thing. but, nope..nothing. Something is wrong in the land of Tool.
Anyone remember Mog? he called it back in 2011-12 - that Tool were bullshiting us and we wouldnt get anything until at least 2016, if ever.. Bet, he is having a laugh...wherever he is.
Mog is actually back on the boards. He doesn't post in the Tool forum though. Also, he was not the only one being pessimistic about Tool. Most of us have known that something was askew for a while now. But, let's just look at this from another perspective. Just because they are quiet doesn't mean that progress isn't being made. We know for a fact that progress has been made. We know for a fact that Maynard has been contributing. His son, Devo, might have actually heard some of the new music. Whether or not they decided to scrap things and start over is a question that will probably be answered at some point. As a matter of fact, that is a question that I personally sent to Hellboy to ask Blair. I see signs that things are still going in the right direction. We have the recent post from Junior that is pretty positive. We also might get thrown a couple bones when Blair does the Q & A. Also, Hellboy made a couple comments about the album on the front page when the site was updated. I'm staying pretty optimistic, and if you look at my first posts when I joined this site, it was quite the opposite.
Re: The Grudge (WARNING: Lawn Mowers!)
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 8:31 pm
by dickleiper
Bill Hilly wrote:
dickleiper wrote:
couldnt agree more with you here hellboy!. I have suspected this for a while now. we get weeks/months of nothing from them, and you start to think that maybe, they have been busy at work and will drop a bombshell and release the damn thing. but, nope..nothing. Something is wrong in the land of Tool.
Anyone remember Mog? he called it back in 2011-12 - that Tool were bullshiting us and we wouldnt get anything until at least 2016, if ever.. Bet, he is having a laugh...wherever he is.
Mog is actually back on the boards. He doesn't post in the Tool forum though. Also, he was not the only one being pessimistic about Tool. Most of us have known that something was askew for a while now. But, let's just look at this from another perspective. Just because they are quiet doesn't mean that progress isn't being made. We know for a fact that progress has been made. We know for a fact that Maynard has been contributing. His son, Devo, might have actually heard some of the new music. Whether or not they decided to scrap things and start over is a question that will probably be answered at some point. As a matter of fact, that is a question that I personally sent to Hellboy to ask Blair. I see signs that things are still going in the right direction. We have the recent post from Junior that is pretty positive. We also might get thrown a couple bones when Blair does the Q & A. Also, Hellboy made a couple comments about the album on the front page when the site was updated. I'm staying pretty optimistic, and if you look at my first posts when I joined this site, it was quite the opposite.
Yea i hear ya mate
i suppose some of the frustration comes from all those little projects that that have been talked about that never see the light of day...as well as the album. Tool runs deep in my veins and my loyalty will never be questioned but geez they are testing me!!
Re: The Grudge (WARNING: Lawn Mowers!)
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 8:40 pm
by UndKeineZwEier
blacksabbath wrote:
hellboy wrote:
blacksabbath wrote:
I'm pretty sure they have been stringing us along with this album release. But if you feel differently that's fine. Glad to know you mowed some of your lawn.
I don't disagree that they've been stringing us along. Calling them liars is a strong term though. I just don't agree when people consider Danny saying something like "we plan to be in the studio by the end of the year" deliberately deceptive.
There's a whole bunch of things that don't seem right in regards to this latest album. Something is or has been wrong within the band, either it's extreme laziness, some kind personal problems, writers block or all of the above.
But he's not being entirely honest either. He probably knows that they won't be in the studio by the end of the year, even if he hopes to be. Just like when you told your wife you would mow the lawn "soon", you knew it would be a couple of weeks before you actually did. And then you only mowed half of it. If it makes you feel better, I'll say that neither you or tool are lying, but there is a lack of honesty and disclosure. If that still bugs you I'll call you both Abraham Lincoln.
You're passing off a lot of assumptions as facts here. You don't know what happened in the loft after that interview, maybe they had written an entire album's worth of music and Adam decided it wasn't good enough and scrapped it, or maybe Justin sat on the big red "delete album" button or maybe Danny is just really bad at estimating. I know I am.
Re: The Grudge (WARNING: Lawn Mowers!)
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:02 pm
by blacksabbath
I'm not passing anything off as facts. Hence, the use of probably. I'm not really even assuming. We are both speculating. Our speculations just happen to be different.
Re: The Grudge (WARNING: Lawn Mowers!)
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:04 pm
by hellboy
dickleiper wrote:
Anyone remember Mog? he called it back in 2011-12 - that Tool were bullshiting us and we wouldnt get anything until at least 2016, if ever.. Bet, he is having a laugh...wherever he is.
He probably is having a laugh. Many of us (myself included) suspected there were problems in the band back then, but I don't think many of us were so pessimistic as to when they expected a new album. I would ague thought, that a good number of the band members now have a lot more going on in their lives than just Tool than they ever used to. Even when they only "focused" on Tool, it still took them bloody years to do anything. Add babies, wine making, side projects and more into the mix, not to mention no real motivation to create (other than to satisfy artistic urges) and it's a recipe for delays.
Re: The Grudge (WARNING: Lawn Mowers!)
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:26 pm
by lo7us
blacksabbath wrote:I'm not passing anything off as facts. Hence, the use of probably. I'm not really even assuming. We are both speculating. Our speculations just happen to be different.
Sup TOD - Black Sabbath? Banned from tdn eh?
Re: The Grudge (WARNING: Lawn Mowers!)
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 10:03 pm
by blacksabbath
lo7us wrote:
blacksabbath wrote:I'm not passing anything off as facts. Hence, the use of probably. I'm not really even assuming. We are both speculating. Our speculations just happen to be different.
Sup TOD - Black Sabbath? Banned from tdn eh?
What up Lotus? Yep. I'm banned. How's it going over there? Nice toad by the way.
Re: The Grudge (WARNING: Lawn Mowers!)
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 10:45 pm
by Calfium Jay
hellboy wrote:
Add babies, wine making, side projects and more into the mix, not to mention no real motivation to create (other than to satisfy artistic urges) and it's a recipe for delays.
What about the new PS4 console? I'll bet that took some time off their hands.
Re: The Grudge (WARNING: Lawn Mowers!)
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2015 5:45 am
by Krazy_blah
Just make sure when you mow, it's not another guys lawn...
Oh, I didn't even notice it. He's wearing a freak out! Tee.
Re: The Grudge (WARNING: Lawn Mowers!)
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:58 pm
by lo7us
blacksabbath wrote:
lo7us wrote:
blacksabbath wrote:I'm not passing anything off as facts. Hence, the use of probably. I'm not really even assuming. We are both speculating. Our speculations just happen to be different.
Sup TOD - Black Sabbath? Banned from tdn eh?
What up Lotus? Yep. I'm banned. How's it going over there? Nice toad by the way.
The same. Thanks!
Re: The Grudge (WARNING: Lawn Mowers!)
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2015 11:40 pm
by blacksabbath
You're welcome.
Re: The Grudge (WARNING: Lawn Mowers!)
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:17 pm
by lo7us
I need a snowblower by this winter. Sick of paying $50 a plow everytime it snows more than 2".
Thinking of getting a used one. They be expensive as cocaine ffs.
