F O U R T H E Y E

children wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:04 pm
These songs reflect what Tool have done in the past. If you appreciate what they have accomplished in the past, these songs should be more than welcome. If not than I don't think you like Tool as much as you thought, and probably only ever liked the teenage angst of the early days...

Calfium Jay wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:02 pm

children wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:04 pm
These songs reflect what Tool have done in the past. If you appreciate what they have accomplished in the past, these songs should be more than welcome. If not than I don't think you like Tool as much as you thought, and probably only ever liked the teenage angst of the early days...

Making. Giant. Assumptions. About. Why. Other. People. Like. This. Or That. And How/Why. They. Engage. On. An Emotional Level. To A Statement. Of Artistic. Expression..


..is a trait one commonly associates with *teenagers* in the first place.

Congratulations on your lapse in social skills.

Enjoy what's left of your breakfast.

children wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:11 pm People keep expecting Tool to go back to a previous time in their career and it's just not going to happen...

children wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:04 pm When 10,000 Days came out you had people making the same argument that there was just nothing as compelling as what they had done before, now there is people saying that there is nothing on Fear Inoculum that is as compelling as 10,000 Days. The cycle continues.

Why do people have to compare all the time? It's not a competition. These are entirely different songs. Also people can't seem to make up there mind about what they dislike. People complain that it sounds too much like there old stuff and they are not doing anything new, and then they say it doesn't sound enough like there old stuff.

Maybe it's too early to make a final judgement. It hasn't even been two weeks yet. When a band releases new music, I don't think it should be looked at as something that is meant to be better than their previous work. It is merely a continuation of the story and evolution that the albums before have laid out.

Each song Tool has ever done is entirely unique and explores its own space. It is absolutely pointless to say one is better because they all hold a specific purpose and musical value. I may think that Third Eye is one of the greatest songs ever, but should Sober not exist because I don't think it's quite as groundbreaking? I still love Sober because of what it is on its own merits and place in music history.

Songs like Pneuma, Invincible, Descending are absolutely necessary themes that deserve to be among the rest of Tool's catalogue.

These songs reflect what Tool have done in the past. If you appreciate what they have accomplished in the past, these songs should be more than welcome. If not than I don't think you like Tool as much as you thought, and probably only ever liked the teenage angst of the early days...

tys0n wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:16 pm Sober can fuck right off, both the song and the sensation.

C_Dreyer wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:59 pm Two cents no one asked for...

Tool ceased breaking molds and really exploring new forms after the D/R/T crossroads, in my lame opinion. I always fantasized they would have taken what was synthezied there and turn it inside out, ditching everything they accomplished prior, not looking back and becoming a completely different band.

GabesCaves wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:52 pm

Takeo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:09 am I don’t agree that this record sounds like Tool. Stylistically, the songs are missing vocals, direction, momentum, punch, climax, and release. That’s not Tool. I’ve gone back to it several times, but while it sounds good with plenty of supposed “complexities,” it’s not resonating. No songs here hold up to the highlights from previous albums.

What is missing is Maynard's soaring melodies. His melody provides essential balance to probably the best rhythm section in the history of rock.

Historically, Maynards melodic singing provides balance to their intense and complex rhythms. It provides emphasis on their insanely tasteful tempo changes. This dynamic on FI is just not up to the standards they have set on the prior records.

tl,dr: Maynard's role within the bands dynamic has been modified leaving their melodic balance lacking in comparison to their back catalog.

tys0n wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:54 am One criticism of the Nard, him singing during the synth solo of Invincible

Oh yeah I already posted about that, cool beans.

children wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:04 pm When 10,000 Days came out you had people making the same argument that there was just nothing as compelling as what they had done before, now there is people saying that there is nothing on Fear Inoculum that is as compelling as 10,000 Days. The cycle continues.

Why do people have to compare all the time? It's not a competition. These are entirely different songs. Also people can't seem to make up there mind about what they dislike. People complain that it sounds too much like there old stuff and they are not doing anything new, and then they say it doesn't sound enough like there old stuff.

Maybe it's too early to make a final judgement. It hasn't even been two weeks yet. When a band releases new music, I don't think it should be looked at as something that is meant to be better than their previous work. It is merely a continuation of the story and evolution that the albums before have laid out.

Each song Tool has ever done is entirely unique and explores its own space. It is absolutely pointless to say one is better because they all hold a specific purpose and musical value. I may think that Third Eye is one of the greatest songs ever, but should Sober not exist because I don't think it's quite as groundbreaking? I still love Sober because of what it is on its own merits and place in music history.

Songs like Pneuma, Invincible, Descending are absolutely necessary themes that deserve to be among the rest of Tool's catalogue.

These songs reflect what Tool have done in the past. If you appreciate what they have accomplished in the past, these songs should be more than welcome. If not than I don't think you like Tool as much as you thought, and probably only ever liked the teenage angst of the early days...