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3po1nt0 wrote:story time...night of june 15, 2008 (wow 9 years ago to the day) i spoke with adam at length outside staples center after the lakers beat the celtics in game 5 of the nba finals.

we were both waiting for the metro train at pico station, so there really wasn't anywhere for him to run off to as i informed him i was a longtime fan and asked him about his experience at the lakers game. at the time, i didn't realize he was a big lakers fan...since then i've seen him and danny there together at games (maybe justin with them as well). he was totally at ease and forthcoming as we shot the shit for 5 mins or so. he had been to many of the games that season and playoffs but was not traveling to boston for game 6 - turned out to be a smart move as they got demolished that game.

anyway, the reason i mention this was in response to the security detailed in VIP article. at some point in our conversation the previous year's fall tour came up and specifically the show from bill graham civic auditorium where jello biafra sat in for holiday in cambodia. tim from primus also sat in that show. well, i mentioned i didn't attend but had a copy of it and that's when things went a little south. his demeanor changed and seemed to be bothered by me just talking about a bootleg of their performance. i then reassured him in a way by commenting how at least it sounded really clean. if any of you have heard this tape it is a damn good one. well, mistake made - one i won't repeat. they're obviously very protective of their collective output in terms of recording, justifiably so. i don't know what my stance would be if i was a musician considering it could go either way where you either make some/all the recordings of shows available to fans, or you preserve the live experience and make it that much more special by withholding.

tl;dr? looking forward to gorge and i've resigned that we're getting vicarious after the drum solo

gamebounty wrote:I'll be at the San Bernardino show! LOGE7 smack dab in the center. I'm definitely down for a fourtheye meet up! It's my first Tool show so be gentle.

azbay wrote:yep I'll be there! Lawn, have a group of 5 that aren't as dedicated to getting better seats, but I'm cool with it obviously. Been to glen Helen numerous times, actually was my very first concert & venue experience, ozzfest '99

bob wrote:....

that new little interview too, value for money he says, blah blah blah. ok mr VIP and signed posters costing 175 dollars now.(in canada thats what they were) plus other things at the merch table that are ridicolously high prices. hes full of shit.....|

Yeah but that's Canadian dollars and Canadians are used to paying high prices. I lived in BC for a few years and the prices were high on everything to say the least. Well... everything except for the reefer

lachrymologist wrote:Patiently waiting at the Wildhorse campground near the Gorge. Looks like it's going to be a beautiful night for a show. Have fun everyone!!

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lachrymologist wrote:Here is a pic of the poster from last night.

lachrymologist wrote:What are your thoughts on a smaller arena compared to a large basketball/hockey arena

junior wrote:

lachrymologist wrote:What are your thoughts on a smaller arena compared to a large basketball/hockey arena

This show was put together to have some height and width to it, so it suffers a bit from a low ceiling height.
It didn't help that we got there an hour later (10am) than planned, which was already going to be 2 hours later than normal (7am). The Gorge load out took longer than anticipated, and the drive took longer.
The atmospheric haze hung out better in the small space, so the lasers and lights looked better out over the audience, so I guess that's nice.

The sound is probably easier to manage in a less "boomy" room, too.

3po1nt0 wrote:~19 tool shows since 1997, it ranks near the top in terms of presentation, venue, setlist and execution but seeing as how it was a retread of some other recent shows i've seen that aspect of it detracted from my overall experience. shame i'm so picky. maybe i need to start drinking again to cloud my overly critical lens.