F O U R T H E Y E

ziggy23 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:22 pm Too long didn't read

children wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:36 pm Mog did request that I go into detail about my opinions. He knew what would happen, blame him..

earthrocker wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:32 pm

Boldizar wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:08 am Turns out Tool waited the perfect amount of time to go digital. Who else gets the same albums charting twice?

Danny wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:11 am

Boldizar wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:08 am Turns out Tool waited the perfect amount of time to go digital. Who else gets the same albums charting twice?

It has happened a lot over the years, albums reentering the charts after years of release.

Boldizar wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:07 am

Danny wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:11 am

Boldizar wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:08 am Turns out Tool waited the perfect amount of time to go digital. Who else gets the same albums charting twice?

It has happened a lot over the years, albums reentering the charts after years of release.

But all of them at once?

Danny wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:19 am

You got me there, of course not all of them at once, that must be a new record.

Boldizar wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:07 am

Danny wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:11 am

Boldizar wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:08 am Turns out Tool waited the perfect amount of time to go digital. Who else gets the same albums charting twice?

It has happened a lot over the years, albums reentering the charts after years of release.

But all of them at once?

Come back on Wednesday for a track-by-track review of the album.

children wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:49 pm Not taking anything personally. Not angry. I think people are really quick to criticize based on their immediate reaction, and that reaction seems to usually be negative.

Again, that is my opinion. It's ok to have a negative opinion, even I do sometimes, but if you find yourself being disappointed constantly it has to be exhausting. Maybe, just maybe, your opinion is a fluid thing that will change later on, and maybe not, who knows.

With 10,000 Days, I don't even think of it in terms of being better or worse or how it's mixed or anything like that. People try to prove factually that it's inferior by looking at the levels and claiming it should be within a certain range or whatever, but I just go by how the music makes me feel and try to grasp what the band was going for and see what the band sees in their own work. It's a very different sounding record than anything else, and I see leaps and bounds in the bands chemistry and in the way the instruments all work together in the performances.

In that regard I think 10k is better just because the band was better at their craft. Doesn't mean it's better in every single way because obviously Lateralis is as perfect of an album as you can get. That's kind of the point of 10k to me is that it is meant to be a difficult listen.

The subject matter is the total opposite of Lateralus and the sound of the music and the flow reflects that. I mean they have an 18 minute song about death as the third track. The whole concept is about humanity having to go through darkness to survive; it wouldn't have fit the concept if it was as easy as a listen as Lateralus, which was super shiny and bright and positive for the most part.

I understand that people don't like the production and all that on 10k but the band specifically wanted to retain the dynamics between the instruments, which was somewhat lost on Lateralus in my opinion. Clearly the band wanted a less sterile sound, and yes Lateralus sounds sterile and almost too perfect and overproduced, but it works for that record. It would not have worked for 10k, so they made the right choice for it to be more raw and gritty. I think the bass and drums have more warmth and clarity on 10k, and I get the feeling that I am there in the room with them playing live.

All of Tool's albums take time to adjust because they each occupy a different space. Each album suits a certain mood. Fear Inoc will occupy its own as we already know based on the new title track, and I think this new sound is them trying to recreate their live sound even more than they ever have done before. Danny's drums sound closer to the live sound than on any other record. His snare and toms and bass drum have a very particular sound live that is very difficult to capture and they got pretty damn close to my ears.

My OPINION is that maybe our ears will need to adjust to this new foreign sound and that seeing the new songs live IN PERSON may allow our minds to tune in to a frequency above our station because sometimes our first impressions are wrong and we need to withhold judgement, which I know is extremely hard for some of us to do, isn't that right , Mog?

ziggy23 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:38 pm