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Re: The Grudge (WARNING: Ten + 3 Years, Shmen + 3 Years)

Post by tys0n » Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:46 pm

M0G wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:43 pm
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Good try Dipshit but it doesn't apply and you know it. Being a "fan" is far more than having an APPRECIATION for an artist or musicians work. Being a "fan" involves actively supporting said artist, musician, athlete etc. Paying to see them live. Buying merchandise. Recommending their work to others. Appreciating work and being a "fan" are very different things.
Yeah I'm the dipshit whooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooosh
Stick to what you do best. Half ass comedy and calling people cunts. Or better yet go cry for four pages about something a mod says
whooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooosh
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Re: The Grudge (WARNING: Ten + 3 Years, Shmen + 3 Years)

Post by M0G » Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:53 pm

tys0n wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:46 pm
M0G wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:43 pm
tys0n wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:40 pm


Yeah I'm the dipshit whooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooosh
Stick to what you do best. Half ass comedy and calling people cunts. Or better yet go cry for four pages about something a mod says
whooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooosh
I am 100% fully aware of the point you were trying to make in the typical arrogant sarcastic piece of shit way you do. Your definition of fan is flawed using only the smallest fraction of one element that makes up the entirety of what a fan is to try to prove your point. You failed. Fuck off.
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Re: The Grudge (WARNING: Ten + 3 Years, Shmen + 3 Years)

Post by tys0n » Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:57 pm

M0G wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:53 pm
tys0n wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:46 pm
M0G wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:43 pm


Stick to what you do best. Half ass comedy and calling people cunts. Or better yet go cry for four pages about something a mod says
whooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooosh
I am 100% fully aware of the point you were trying to make in the typical arrogant sarcastic piece of shit way you do. Your definition of fan is flawed using only the smallest fraction of one element that makes up the entirety of what a fan is to try to prove your point. You failed. Fuck off.
I was literally making a simple joke and one at no ones expense you dense cunt
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Re: The Grudge (WARNING: Ten + 3 Years, Shmen + 3 Years)

Post by bob » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:00 pm

you guys need to get the boxing gloves out and skype it for us or something.

oh well, no other news to talk about. right arm!

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Re: The Grudge (WARNING: Ten + 3 Years, Shmen + 3 Years)

Post by M0G » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:04 pm

tys0n wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:57 pm
M0G wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:53 pm
tys0n wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:46 pm

whooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooosh
I am 100% fully aware of the point you were trying to make in the typical arrogant sarcastic piece of shit way you do. Your definition of fan is flawed using only the smallest fraction of one element that makes up the entirety of what a fan is to try to prove your point. You failed. Fuck off.
I was literally making a simple joke and one at no ones expense you dense cunt
I know exactly what you were doing you arrogant piece of shit. You were not trying to make a simple joke you were taking a dig at me and I called you on your bullshit. Do we need to deconstruct your post word for word to prove my point? The second your posted I knew exactly what you were getting at and it wasn't a simple joke. It was Tyson being Tyson. Now kindly fuck off
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Re: The Grudge (WARNING: Ten + 3 Years, Shmen + 3 Years)

Post by M0G » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:07 pm

bob wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:00 pm
you guys need to get the boxing gloves out and skype it for us or something.

oh well, no other news to talk about. right arm!
Na it's good this is the Grudge and a good fight is fun. This place has been dead lately so having words with Tyson is better than nothing. Besides the amount of times Tyson and I have had words on this forum there isn't a ring big enough. I respect his wit but call him on his bullshit. He calls me on mine. We move on until the next encounter.
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Post by liz » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:09 pm

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Ha. I was ready to post that if you didn't. :)
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Post by M0G » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:09 pm

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Likely much higher than that considering how many accounts I have had but I appreciate the stalker treatment. Oh and fuck have I had fun in that thread. Had you triggered more times than I can count. You are triggered enough to jump in over here when you weren't even involved. Gotcha bitch
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Post by tys0n » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:11 pm

M0G wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:04 pm

I know exactly what you were doing you arrogant piece of shit. You were not trying to make a simple joke you were taking a dig at me and I called you on your bullshit. Do we need to deconstruct your post word for word to prove my point? The second your posted I knew exactly what you were getting at and it wasn't a simple joke. It was Tyson being Tyson. Now kindly fuck off
Yes please, deconstruct my post word for word.

Also language!
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Re: The Grudge (WARNING: Ten + 3 Years, Shmen + 3 Years)

Post by Bill Hilly » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:11 pm

M0G wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:09 pm
Likely much higher than that considering how many accounts I have had but I appreciate the stalker treatment. Oh and fuck have I had fun in that thread. Had you triggered more times than I can count. You are triggered enough to jump in over here when you weren't even involved. Gotcha bitch
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Post by M0G » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:12 pm

Anyhoo I will destroy I mean respond to the next 10 responses later I got shit to go do. See ya in about 7-8 hours. Do your worst.
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Post by liz » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:14 pm

Hey Mog "waves arms". I totally understand that Tyson's one liner gave you the excuse you needed to pointedly ignore our conversation. It's ok.
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Post by tys0n » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:19 pm

M0G wrote:
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Anyhoo I will destroy I mean respond to the next 10 responses later I got shit to go do. See ya in about 7-8 hours. Do your worst.
Run away with your tail between your legs, I got you pegged :lol:

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Post by bob » Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:26 pm

M0G wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:07 pm
bob wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:00 pm
you guys need to get the boxing gloves out and skype it for us or something.

oh well, no other news to talk about. right arm!
Na it's good this is the Grudge and a good fight is fun. This place has been dead lately so having words with Tyson is better than nothing. Besides the amount of times Tyson and I have had words on this forum there isn't a ring big enough. I respect his wit but call him on his bullshit. He calls me on mine. We move on until the next encounter.
im not trying to ruin the fun! just had a little commentary inbetween rounds! ha

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Re: The Grudge (WARNING: Ten + 3 Years, Shmen + 3 Years)

Post by Boldizar » Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:20 pm

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I can only think of 3 different reasons why. They are being wankers, telling us will give something away that they don't want revealed yet or they still haven't decided what to call it. Any other reasons anyone can think of?
They don't give a shit about the fans. Basic communication is asking too much from them. It is crazy to think we still don't know the album name. It is crazy that there has been no announcement about when their catalogue will show up on digital platforms. This is a big part of why I am not a Tool fan. I stopped being a Tool fan 8 years ago. I love their music. Some of the best rock music ever made. But I do not like "TOOL". It is odd having that sort of disassociation but that is where I am. I have moved from hating the band. Hate is too strong and there is too much of it. At this point I disagree with their approach and I don't appreciate how they treat their fans. As such I view my interaction with Tool from a purely consumer standpoint. I will never actually actively support the band again. I won't see them tour. I will never buy any merch. I will buy the album and I imagine I will listen to it often. But I will never be a Tool fan again.
This a great rant, with heart. I completely agree with the motivations here. I haven't gotten to the same place (I was a "FooL" who went to a VIP session - I liked it although it was more for people who are musically retarded and didn't already know everything about the band. I did have a friend that thought it was stupid to go--and didn't. Sitting on a couch right in front of the band while they played was great) but I completely understand how someone would. This point of view makes way more sense than all of the apologism I see floating around. Further, people are crediting Tool with being "mysterious". Nah, that is bullshit. They are LAZY. They aren't subverting your expectations for creativity's sake.
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Re: The Grudge (WARNING: Ten + 3 Years, Shmen + 3 Years)

Post by liz » Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:53 pm

To be clear Boldizar many of us don't think that Tool are that mysterious or lazy. Personally I appreciate their art enormously and look very much forward to the new offering.

I am not owed anything. Certainly I don't feel it is my business to critique how they choose to interact with their fans or conduct their lives (which doesn't of course mean I won't, and having a go at Adams WWE interests is always a dig I enjoy - so low brow).

VIP sessions and silly merchandising gimmicks are certainly not my scene but hey if they can make money doing that it's hardly their fault.

Choosing not to attend gigs, as some sort of protest vote or point of personal pride, is really quite silly.
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Re: The Grudge (WARNING: Ten + 3 Years, Shmen + 3 Years)

Post by M0G » Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:25 am

Okay let’s get caught up.

Uh Tyson first your post being an ass stating you are Allen and Polanski fan but love their movies, implying my definition and interpretation of what a fan is and means in the fullest sense was flawed. Specifically as a tongue in cheek reply to me saying I am not a fan of Tool but I appreciate their music. What you called a joke later initially intended as as a jab.

Liz next not much there you made no logical case for your argument within the context of how a fan is fully defined. Feel free to clarify or expound and I will reply as I see fit.

Err oh Billy keep up with the stalker treatment I love it.

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Post by liz » Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:45 am

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Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:25 am

Liz next not much there you made no logical case for your argument within the context of how a fan is fully defined. Feel free to clarify or expound and I will reply as I see fit.
My apologies, I didn't mean to be specifically vague. You can be a fan of a something or a someone. It is quite a simple thing to appreciate or enjoy something and in doing so you become a fan. The degree of fandom is of course difficult to quantify. But lets try and reach a scientific consensus on your level Mog.

1. Listens to TooL music and has done so for years.

2. Owns all TooL albums.

3.Spends an inordinate amount of time on a TooL forum and has done so for years.

4. Spends many hours discussing TooL on said forum.

5.Doesn't go to TooL gigs because the actions of some band members make him cross. (This is the most telling).

Id say rabid fan but that's just my objective opinion.
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Post by M0G » Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:53 am

Again missing the point entirely. One can be a fan of a product and hate the manufacturer.

I love the Amazon original series The Man in the High Castle. Brilliant. I DESPISE Amazon as a company. My appreciation for Amazon’s product by no means implies I am a FAN of Amazon.

The same applies for Tool. I do not like Tool the company. I appreciate the music. That does not make me a fan of Tool.

Nice try though
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Re: The Grudge (WARNING: Ten + 3 Years, Shmen + 3 Years)

Post by tys0n » Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:56 am

M0G wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:25 am
Okay let’s get caught up.

Uh Tyson first your post being an ass stating you are Allen and Polanski fan but love their movies, implying my definition and interpretation of what a fan is and means in the fullest sense was flawed. Specifically as a tongue in cheek reply to me saying I am not a fan of Tool but I appreciate their music. What you called a joke later initially intended as as a jab.
That's not what I said at all dumb ass.
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Re: The Grudge (WARNING: Ten + 3 Years, Shmen + 3 Years)

Post by M0G » Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:58 am

tys0n wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:56 am
M0G wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:25 am
Okay let’s get caught up.

Uh Tyson first your post being an ass stating you are Allen and Polanski fan but love their movies, implying my definition and interpretation of what a fan is and means in the fullest sense was flawed. Specifically as a tongue in cheek reply to me saying I am not a fan of Tool but I appreciate their music. What you called a joke later initially intended as as a jab.
That's not what I said at all dumb ass.
Obvious typo dipshit you said you do not like their movies you knew exactly what I meant but focused on the typo and ignored the relevant points of discussion
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Re: The Grudge (WARNING: Ten + 3 Years, Shmen + 3 Years)

Post by liz » Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:03 am

M0G wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:53 am
Again missing the point entirely. One can be a fan of a product and hate the manufacturer.

I love the Amazon original series The Man in the High Castle. Brilliant. I DESPISE Amazon as a company. My appreciation for Amazon’s product by no means implies I am a FAN of Amazon.

The same applies for Tool. I do not like Tool the company. I appreciate the music. That does not make me a fan of Tool.

Nice try though
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Re: The Grudge (WARNING: Ten + 3 Years, Shmen + 3 Years)

Post by M0G » Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:09 am

liz wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:03 am
M0G wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:53 am
Again missing the point entirely. One can be a fan of a product and hate the manufacturer.

I love the Amazon original series The Man in the High Castle. Brilliant. I DESPISE Amazon as a company. My appreciation for Amazon’s product by no means implies I am a FAN of Amazon.

The same applies for Tool. I do not like Tool the company. I appreciate the music. That does not make me a fan of Tool.

Nice try though
The product of Maynard, Danny, Justin and Adam is TooL you twit. :)

Tool is the name of the company. The product is the music. More specifically, the main products are as follows: Opiate, Undertow, Aenima, Lateralus, and 10,000 Days. All fantastic products created by a shitty company.

Now as for the rest of their products...blankets, Christmas ornaments, etc...awful
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Post by ziggy23 » Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:27 am

Fuck this band

BORING

Stupid shit, silly shit, stupid shit
- You like noisy music?
- Yes. The louder the better. Stops me from thinking.
- You don't like to think? What do you like?
- Never thought about it.

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