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Re: Random Tool Social Media thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:09 pm
by ziggy23
Yeah, it all sounds like a bullshit, tbh.
Re: Random Tool Social Media thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:20 pm
by tys0n
Can you produce a cd that shuffles on its own?
Re: Random Tool Social Media thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:38 pm
by hellboy
He claims it's a double album, which makes me immediately skeptical. Not inclined to believe anonymous internet person just yet btw.
Did anyone copy/paste it before it was removed?
Re: Random Tool Social Media thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:44 pm
by hellboy
Here it is for prosterity:
► Show Spoiler
Don't read any of this if you don't want spoilers.
I am afraid to give a lot of details about when and where this happened because I don't want my boyfriend or any of his coworkers to lose their jobs. Sorry.
Very recently he was invited to watch Tool play "an extended preview" of material from the album. It was mentioned that the material was rearranged in such a way that it wasn't exactly the same as the album. Allegedly Tool has been experimenting with this, and referring to it as "rubicks cubing" or just "cubing" the song structure and song order. It's going to be an album the fans can mix around a lot, like The Holy Gift that people did with Lateralus. "But it will be much more complex than that."
My boyfriend says "This album is Lateralus Part II and has themes of aging, dying, rebirth, resurrection, awakening from slumbers, unearthing tombs and ruins, discovering relics and gems, etc. A lot of allusions to crumbling empires and ancient things." He says the songs are very long, complicated, and have a lot of hypnotic bits and then big climaxes.
He said Maynard's singing is smooth and beautiful and mostly mid-range and baritone. But many surprising notes too. He heard no screaming, but he did hear chanting, whispering, guttural grunting, etc.
The interplay between Adam and Justin is front and center on this record, with swirling, dizzying riffs that go in and out of time with one another and branch off into their own distinct little journeys throughout each song. He says it is effortless and flawless the way the notes syncopate. Overall there is less singing than on any record so far, and a lot of repetition. "The vocals remind me of the vocals on APC's new album, where just one or two stanzas are repeated and slightly changed around per song. I think it's supposed to be very chanty and hypnotic rather than about long storytelling."
Danny's drums are insane, but who can be surprised by that. There's more gong usage on this album.
Invincible and Descending have surprises that we aren't hearing at live shows. There are also lyrics we haven't heard sung on those songs. Maybe the end of Descending??
Maynard is concerned one of the members of Tool (including himself) could die before another record is produced, and his lyrics are obsessive over precious time lost. The lyrics are super ambiguous and seem to be designed to apply to anything the listener wants them to, which is great, because each listener will have a different emotional experience.
Some words my boyfriend said to describe the new material: "Haunting, haunting, haunting. Primal. Mysterious. Spacious and ambient. Powerful in a spiritual way. Moving. One of the songs is funny and light-hearted, like HWAP or The Pot. One of them is definitely about drugs, like Third Eye or Rosetta."
Some lyrics my boyfriend and his friends/coworkers heard, they had a collaborative effort to reconstruct them:
Song 1:
"One being on the path / a sprawling wood invites him in...[something about sighing, murmuring wind]...
One being off the path / afloat in darkness of a dream / its emptiness becomes him / the vacant face of the Deep / alive and sliding still / through worlds of warmth and suffering / into the light he can escape to find the meaning"
"[these words?] keep you divided / anchored to a drowning hope / sunlight pour into the chamber / deaf to the voices on the storm / you've been here before / emerging from the shadow / brush the dust from rumbling tombs / opening, opening, opening your eye / not a single dream in a thousand years' time"
Song 2:
"Whatever may come crashing down / I will use to rebuild myself"
"This pessimism befouls the I / a void devouring all that we once were / then I'll expose for it my neck / so that it may draw from me again / and I can see / I can see the end / panic fills me / but I refuse to [be the victim?]"
Song 3:
"sunlight fall / wash away / stabbing through / sweet nightshade / veiled a truth / who I am / shield of dawn / to become / whoever, whatever, and never I, and then / whenever / anyone / needing a / lie to you / I can be anything within this / light fall on darkness and / shatter night"
Song 4:
(instrumental and really good)
My boyfriend has worked with and met a LOT of really famous people, and many of his favorite bands. But I've never seen him this excited. He was absolutely glowing when he came home that night. I got his permission to share this stuff with you all on condition of anonyminity.
Oh and he said he thinks he heard something about "a very, very long album, most likely double."
Re: Random Tool Social Media thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:46 pm
by snazzl3frass
Yeah, it’s not a double album. It’s a triple album!
Re: Random Tool Social Media thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:54 pm
by tys0n
How did he remember so many lyrics off just one listen?
Re: Random Tool Social Media thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:09 pm
by hellboy
tys0n wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:54 pm
How did he remember so many lyrics off just one listen?
Some of us haven't boozed our brains into oblivion
Re: Random Tool Social Media thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:29 pm
by tys0n
I'd put my memory against yours any day mate, you can't even remember random Maynard quotes form the 90's.
Re: Random Tool Social Media thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:36 pm
by hellboy
That's mostly because I don't give a fuck.
Also, I freely admit my memory is shitty
Re: Random Tool Social Media thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:00 pm
by Fartypants_McGee
tys0n wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:54 pm
How did he remember so many lyrics off just one listen?
He didn't, because this is horseshit.
Re: Random Tool Social Media thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:06 pm
by Busty McCracken
Boozeheads have brains too Pal
Re: Random Tool Social Media thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:20 pm
by hellboy
Fartypants_McGee wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:00 pm
tys0n wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:54 pm
How did he remember so many lyrics off just one listen?
He didn't, because this is horseshit.
Not that any of us are buying into this just yet, but what makes you so convinced it's horseshit?
Re: Random Tool Social Media thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:21 pm
by Primate
Maynard steps up:
"Hi everybody... I´m real glad you could make it. So, erm... I´m really, erm... really concearned about one of the four of us dying before we release another record, so, yeah, I got obsessed with losing time and all, and that´s what this record is all about. Enjoy the show. Hit it."
Despite the presentation of that talkative lady´s info, I dig parts of it. I can imagine them being accurate. And also I´m gullible and enjoy being trolled every now and then.
I think what gets me most is how the live versions seem to withhold something, which she adresses, as well as the interview with Adam talking about one of the guys being sick.
Shit, I´d prefer their health to any new music.
Re: Random Tool Social Media thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:43 pm
by hellboy
Primate wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:21 pm
Despite the presentation of that talkative lady´s info, I dig parts of it. I can imagine them being accurate. And also I´m gullible and enjoy being trolled every now and then.
That's why I'm not really buying into it. There's very little which is said that is new, apart from the lyrical recollection. It really just rehashes what we already know, and adds some speculation that is easily dismissed as misremembered later down the track.
Re: Random Tool Social Media thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:09 pm
by Primate
hellboy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:43 pm
It really just rehashes what we already know, and adds some speculation that is easily dismissed as misremembered later down the track.
True.
Can you enlighten me, please: who deleted the post? A mod or OP?
And what are you referring to by your ´misremembered later down the track´ statement?
I like how the band has given me so little to work with, that I´ll gladly sink my teeth into what could be a pile of shit. As of now, I like the taste. Yum. If this is them or BMB feeding me bread/shitcrumbs, I appreciate this way of marketing their product.
Edit:
bonus letter ü.
Re: Random Tool Social Media thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:11 pm
by hellboy
Primate wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:09 pm
hellboy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:43 pm
It really just rehashes what we already know, and adds some speculation that is easily dismissed as misremembered later down the track.
True.
Can you enlighten me, please: who deleted the post? A mod or OP?
Out of respect for those involved, no comment for now
Primate wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:09 pm
And what are you referring to by your ´misremembered later down the track´ statement?
I mean that when the actual lyrics come out, it'll be easy to say "well I guess I misheard it"
Re: Random Tool Social Media thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:21 pm
by Primate
That´s very respectful of you.
You wouldn´t delete it there to bring it here, you little rascal, would you.
Re: Random Tool Social Media thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:35 pm
by hellboy
Primate wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:21 pm
That´s very respectful of you.
You wouldn´t delete it there to bring it here, you little rascal, would you.
No, I'm happy to say it wasn't me who removed the post
Re: Random Tool Social Media thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:41 pm
by Primate
While the attention seeking troll wouldn´t remove it him/herself, the clever troll would. It adds some mystery to it, and I´m all for mystery.
Fingers crossed for 220 minutes of music mysteriously fitting onto 2 CDs...
Re: Random Tool Social Media thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:46 pm
by limeygringo
I don't plainly believe everything I read online, but I find this believable as much as I am skeptical about it. And the post being deleted just makes me believe it more, though I have absolutely no hopes or expectations regarding it's authenticity.
Re: Random Tool Social Media thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:54 pm
by Bill Hilly
What makes this so believable? How many posts does this person have? Does it make it more believable because it's supposedly a woman? I think it's much more likely that it's just another troll (or even the same troll) that's been posting first hand knowledge bullshit about this album since the beginning of the year.
Re: Random Tool Social Media thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:57 pm
by rshforgothispw
Hey guys here are some tracks no one has heard have a listen. Oh and here’s what they’re about. Oh and it’s a double album.
sounds like it’s either fan chatter wrapped up into one post or totally true
Re: Random Tool Social Media thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:58 pm
by Bill Hilly
....and people fall for this dumb shit every single time.
Re: Random Tool Social Media thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:01 pm
by Takeo
I find it believable at the very least. There’s nothing outrageous. Themes fit Invincible. Most descriptions are rather generic and fit Tool historically. The cubing thing is only real insight. Lyrics sound like word couplets from scribbled notes. Realistic for a rough recall. Album is long, like most Tool albums, and the “double album” thing reads like speculation. Mildly interesting if nothing else.
Re: Random Tool Social Media thread
Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:03 pm
by rshforgothispw
hellboy doesn’t help by bringing it here and saying shit like OuToFrEsPeCt4nOw.. almost like it IS true! hah! I’ve cracked the case guys!