Deftones

Post by **Kittaan** » Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:35 pm

^ OK, now I see your point. Â We are talking about two very different things.

1) Hanging with friends at a given local bar/nightclub you frequent, where there also happens to be live music, probably local acts.

2) Going to a medium to large live music venue specifically to see a NAME band.

Now, I know there's some grey area there, but I was basing my comments on #2. Â Also, the connotation I have of a "scene" is negative - poser/hipster related. Â

I can see where you're coming from and agree on #1. Â

Post by **hellboy** » Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:28 pm

Kittaan saidÂ

Now, I know there's some grey area there, but I was basing my comments on #2. Â Also, the connotation I have of a "scene" is negative - poser/hipster related. Â

I question how much that scenario actually happens. Â I've put down Pete's disdain of the Melbourne scene to his general misanthropy rather than there being an unusual amount of "scenesters".

N.Y.H.C. · Post by **N.Y.H.C.** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:57 am

the funny thing is the hipsters I've unfortunately had the displeasure of running into HATE the Deftones. but they love The United Nations, Head Automatica and Glassjaw. loving Glassjaw and having disdain for the Deftones baffles me being they basically gave birth to GJ.

Post by **Kittaan** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:52 am

^ I've never even heard of those 3 bands.

MOG · Post by **MOG** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:10 am

NYHC81 said
the funny thing is the hipsters I've unfortunately had the displeasure of running into HATE the Deftones. but they love The United Nations, Head Automatica and Glassjaw. loving Glassjaw and having disdain for the Deftones baffles me being they basically gave birth to GJ.

Yeah I have heard of Glassjaw.Â Fuck em.Â They are DT ripoffs in much the same way the entire Djent genre (minus Animals as Leaders, who are most definitely not Djent) is one big Meshuggah rip off.

Post by **petemasterpete** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:27 pm

mogeffingmog said

Â Categorizing them in the same genre as Limp Bisquick and Disturbed is fucking ridiculous.

when you lay down with dogs... and tour frequently and regularly and guest on albums, etc. They were bound to get lumped in the same way as every band from Seattle was grungeÂ

@HB: yes, all that and I'm getting old.

@Kittaan: that's because you are already old... glassjaw used to tour with the tones when they were starting out... I remember them giving me a stack of their demos and first single on cassette to hand out way back when after a show. Â I wouldn't go so far as to call them rip-offs but you're not missing much. Â They are definitely a 'hipster' variation of the tones on some level, but shit, Chino's a big fucking hipster himself, so...

Post by **not tyson** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:40 pm

mogeffingmog said

NYHC81 said
the funny thing is the hipsters I've unfortunately had the displeasure of running into HATE the Deftones. but they love The United Nations, Head Automatica and Glassjaw. loving Glassjaw and having disdain for the Deftones baffles me being they basically gave birth to GJ.

Yeah I have heard of Glassjaw.Â Fuck em.Â They are DT ripoffs in much the same way the entire Djent genre (minus Animals as Leaders, who are most definitely not Djent) is one big Meshuggah rip off.

Fuck off, Glassjaw while inspired by Deftones are very very much their own band, douche.

You can lead a whore to water . . .

MOG · Post by **MOG** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:55 pm

Tyson said

mogeffingmog said

NYHC81 said
the funny thing is the hipsters I've unfortunately had the displeasure of running into HATE the Deftones. but they love The United Nations, Head Automatica and Glassjaw. loving Glassjaw and having disdain for the Deftones baffles me being they basically gave birth to GJ.

Yeah I have heard of Glassjaw.Â Fuck em.Â They are DT ripoffs in much the same way the entire Djent genre (minus Animals as Leaders, who are most definitely not Djent) is one big Meshuggah rip off.

Fuck off, Glassjaw while inspired by Deftones are very very much their own band, douche.

You can lead a whore to water . . .

Shocker you WOULD be a Glassjaw fan.Â Fuck your taste in music is worse than Hellboy's.

Post by **not tyson** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:03 pm

Glassjaw are an amazing band

Post by **Kittaan** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:16 pm

^ Not so much.

Post by **not tyson** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:20 pm

Jazz Fusion fan, enough said

Post by **petemasterpete** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:26 pm

^yeah, there is always that, but 'amazing' was quite an overstatement

Post by **Kittaan** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:27 pm

LOL. Â

I did like the Talk Talk you posted. Â Only knew them for the pop stuff.

Post by **not tyson** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:51 pm

That album is AMAZING

N.Y.H.C. · Post by **N.Y.H.C.** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:30 pm

Kittaan said
^ I've never even heard of those 3 bands.

they're actually all interrelated, Daryl Palumbo sings (or screams) in all three bands. if you like hardcore/scream-o/punk type shit you'd like United Nations. they're a super group with GJ/Converge members. I'd post a video but I can't seem to get it right, keeps saying something about iframes. I'm retarded. there's a lot of good underground music out there. I mean I like the jazz-fusion thing that VOLTO! is doing, I actually dig jazz-anything. I mean growing up there was a death metal band out of Brooklyn that incorporated jazz called "Candiria". their early music was fantastically original. to each his own.

b_hilburn · Post by **b_hilburn** » Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:21 pm

So, I've been MIA for awhile. I come back to find out the tones have released a Limited Edition piece and somehow I missed out completely...I don't remember them posting about it on Facebook either, so I'm very bummed.Â

Did anyone happen to grab an extra? How much where theyÂ initially?Â

Thanks.Â

N.Y.H.C. · Post by **N.Y.H.C.** » Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:36 am

this was the craziest thing I've ever seen at a live show. shit was like Independence Day. crazy...

Post by **UndKeineZwEier** » Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:56 pm

A popular tag for Deftones on last.fm is "not emo" lol.

N.Y.H.C. · Post by **N.Y.H.C.** » Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:48 pm

UndKeineEier said
A popular tag for Deftones on last.fm is "not emo" lol.

hey hey, it's the Deftones not AFI!

Post by **UndKeineZwEier** » Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:18 pm

NYHC81 said

UndKeineEier said
A popular tag for Deftones on last.fm is "not emo" lol.

hey hey, it's the Deftones not AFI!

I don't think it's funny because it's true, I think it's funny that so many people tagged it like that.

Post by **hellboy** » Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:26 pm

I guess Deftones fans get pretty emo when you criticise their favorite band

N.Y.H.C. · Post by **N.Y.H.C.** » Wed Mar 27, 2013 6:17 pm

hellboy1975 said
I guess Deftones fans get pretty emo when you criticise their favorite band

isn't Tool our favorite band?

Post by **hellboy** » Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:18 pm

NYHC81 said

hellboy1975 said
I guess Deftones fans get pretty emo when you criticise their favorite band

isn't Tool our favorite band?

Nah, we're all tool cool to admit to that

Post by **UndKeineZwEier** » Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:20 pm

My favorite band is Negative Earth.Â You've probably never heard of them.

Post by **badkittygothgirl** » Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:52 pm

I googled hipster metal fan and this is what I found. Â Ha!