F O U R T H E Y E

Boldizar wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:09 am

Takeo wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:58 am No one’s complaining, only critiquing based on lofty standards theband has earned. This is deep shit and deserves analysis not just a throwaway pop tune to enjoy blindly. Analyzing their catalogue is a fulfilling endeavor for a lot of fans, the good and seemingly bad.

God Damn you Takeo! CONFIRM MY BIAS!!

For those who are Eurocentric: https://www.backstagerockshop.com/produ ... noculum-cd

Judging from the prices I have seen floating around here, it looks like this physical release is a North American release that is merely going to be "imported" to other regions. Children of Bodom's special pack for Hexed was similar. I can't see any reason why it would cost so much more.

ms2r wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:53 am But the euro shops just kinda forgot amazon.com ships internationally.
:/

thekillingjoke wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:08 am From a FB post by Germany's EMP Shop (translation by me):

"Es wird nach dem aktuellen Stand keine Vinyl Version geben, auch ist die Version hier die Standard Version, eine günstigere ist nicht geplant. Derzeit zeigen einige amerikanische Shops deutlich günstigere Preise, wir haben uns informiert und scheinbar ist dies ein Fehler und deren Preise werden bald angepasst."

"Currently there is no vinyl version planned, and this edition here is the standard version, there are no plans for a cheaper one. Currently some US shops offer substantially lower prices - we asked around and these are apparently errors, those prices will soon be adjusted."

The vinyl part is already wrong (https://www.rcarecords.com/news/tools-f ... -track-now), so again: grain of salt.

thekillingjoke wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:08 am From a FB post by Germany's EMP Shop (translation by me):

"Es wird nach dem aktuellen Stand keine Vinyl Version geben, auch ist die Version hier die Standard Version, eine günstigere ist nicht geplant. Derzeit zeigen einige amerikanische Shops deutlich günstigere Preise, wir haben uns informiert und scheinbar ist dies ein Fehler und deren Preise werden bald angepasst."

"Currently there is no vinyl version planned, and this edition here is the standard version, there are no plans for a cheaper one. Currently some US shops offer substantially lower prices - we asked around and these are apparently errors, those prices will soon be adjusted."

The vinyl part is already wrong (https://www.rcarecords.com/news/tools-f ... -track-now), so again: grain of salt.

Spoonman wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:45 am 99,99€ ? Are they serious?

As soon as a simple CD version will be available, I'll cancel my preorder.
Don't need useless gimmicks "worth" 70€.

NowhereFaded wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:09 pm I’ve been a tool fan since the mid nineties. Ænima days.
Have listened to FI 3 times.
It’s good.
I mean after 13 years can anything live up the the Hype?
Even new music by TOOL??

What jumps out to me most of all is where is the “hammer of the gods”, Adam Jones guitar tone and riffage. Where are the killer riffs that TOOL music is shaped by??

I can live with whatever Maynard contributes but I can’t live without Jones’ tones. Especially in the lead single. It’s baffling.

Am I the only one who immediately noticed this??

NowhereFaded wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:09 pm I’ve been a tool fan since the mid nineties. Ænima days.
Have listened to FI 3 times.
It’s good.
I mean after 13 years can anything live up the the Hype?
Even new music by TOOL??

What jumps out to me most of all is where is the “hammer of the gods”, Adam Jones guitar tone and riffage. Where are the killer riffs that TOOL music is shaped by??

I can live with whatever Maynard contributes but I can’t live without Jones’ tones. Especially in the lead single. It’s baffling.

Am I the only one who immediately noticed this??

MobileVortex wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:07 pm

Spoonman wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:45 am 99,99€ ? Are they serious?

As soon as a simple CD version will be available, I'll cancel my preorder.
Don't need useless gimmicks "worth" 70€.

Just buy it digitally?

M0G wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:36 pm I hated it first 5 listens. I mean hated it. Called it the worst Tool song I had ever heard. It was the Puscifer style lyrics. The song also didn’t feel cohesive.

Then I put my ego aside and went back in with an open mind and I kept discovering layers of complexity in the music. At a certain point the lyrics, the style, the tone, it made sense. After about 20 listens on a good set of headphones I realized the song was fucking brilliant.

It wasn’t what I was expecting at all and I think that is a good thing. It challenged me more than any other Tool song. We all wanted evolution and change and this is that. This is a very different kind of Tool song. Yes the elements that make it Tool are there but how they go about presenting this particular musical idea is very very different. I get why it is the title track now.

M0G wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:36 pm I hated it first 5 listens. I mean hated it. Called it the worst Tool song I had ever heard. It was the Puscifer style lyrics. The song also didn’t feel cohesive.

Then I put my ego aside and went back in with an open mind and I kept discovering layers of complexity in the music. At a certain point the lyrics, the style, the tone, it made sense. After about 20 listens on a good set of headphones I realized the song was fucking brilliant.

It wasn’t what I was expecting at all and I think that is a good thing. It challenged me more than any other Tool song. We all wanted evolution and change and this is that. This is a very different kind of Tool song. Yes the elements that make it Tool are there but how they go about presenting this particular musical idea is very very different. I get why it is the title track now.