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Takeo wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:58 am
No one’s complaining, only critiquing based on lofty standards theband has earned. This is deep shit and deserves analysis not just a throwaway pop tune to enjoy blindly. Analyzing their catalogue is a fulfilling endeavor for a lot of fans, the good and seemingly bad.
Judging from the prices I have seen floating around here, it looks like this physical release is a North American release that is merely going to be "imported" to other regions. Children of Bodom's special pack for Hexed was similar. I can't see any reason why it would cost so much more.
But the euro shops just kinda forgot amazon.com ships internationally.
:/
From a FB post by Germany's EMP Shop (translation by me):
"Es wird nach dem aktuellen Stand keine Vinyl Version geben, auch ist die Version hier die Standard Version, eine günstigere ist nicht geplant. Derzeit zeigen einige amerikanische Shops deutlich günstigere Preise, wir haben uns informiert und scheinbar ist dies ein Fehler und deren Preise werden bald angepasst."
"Currently there is no vinyl version planned, and this edition here is the standard version, there are no plans for a cheaper one. Currently some US shops offer substantially lower prices - we asked around and these are apparently errors, those prices will soon be adjusted."
thekillingjoke wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:08 am
From a FB post by Germany's EMP Shop (translation by me):
"Es wird nach dem aktuellen Stand keine Vinyl Version geben, auch ist die Version hier die Standard Version, eine günstigere ist nicht geplant. Derzeit zeigen einige amerikanische Shops deutlich günstigere Preise, wir haben uns informiert und scheinbar ist dies ein Fehler und deren Preise werden bald angepasst."
"Currently there is no vinyl version planned, and this edition here is the standard version, there are no plans for a cheaper one. Currently some US shops offer substantially lower prices - we asked around and these are apparently errors, those prices will soon be adjusted."
thekillingjoke wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:08 am
From a FB post by Germany's EMP Shop (translation by me):
"Es wird nach dem aktuellen Stand keine Vinyl Version geben, auch ist die Version hier die Standard Version, eine günstigere ist nicht geplant. Derzeit zeigen einige amerikanische Shops deutlich günstigere Preise, wir haben uns informiert und scheinbar ist dies ein Fehler und deren Preise werden bald angepasst."
"Currently there is no vinyl version planned, and this edition here is the standard version, there are no plans for a cheaper one. Currently some US shops offer substantially lower prices - we asked around and these are apparently errors, those prices will soon be adjusted."
True, they can only adjust the price for new orders. Just to be safe I've two preorders running now - amazon.com, and a more expensive one on a German store in case the .com preorder goes bust for whatever reason. I'll cancel one preorder as soon as the other gets shipped (or I'll end up with an additional, sealed copy). Ah, remember just going into a record store and buying new albums? Simpler times.
They need to unbox this thing. I’m not really into having “stuff” but if it had a little of them recording in the videos that would be something. Very exciting times! I need to go for another listen!
Ha. Just got home and started my first listen. First sounds gave me goosebumps and about 3 minutes in I've turned it off for a sec cos I feel emotional as fuck. Had a lot of shit going on in life lately and I'm knackered from work so that doesn't help but wow it sounds so fucking different!!
I’ve been a tool fan since the mid nineties. Ænima days.
Have listened to FI 3 times.
It’s good.
I mean after 13 years can anything live up the the Hype?
Even new music by TOOL??
What jumps out to me most of all is where is the “hammer of the gods”, Adam Jones guitar tone and riffage. Where are the killer riffs that TOOL music is shaped by??
I can live with whatever Maynard contributes but I can’t live without Jones’ tones. Especially in the lead single. It’s baffling.
NowhereFaded wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:09 pm
I’ve been a tool fan since the mid nineties. Ænima days.
Have listened to FI 3 times.
It’s good.
I mean after 13 years can anything live up the the Hype?
Even new music by TOOL??
What jumps out to me most of all is where is the “hammer of the gods”, Adam Jones guitar tone and riffage. Where are the killer riffs that TOOL music is shaped by??
I can live with whatever Maynard contributes but I can’t live without Jones’ tones. Especially in the lead single. It’s baffling.
Am I the only one who immediately noticed this??
Yeah you can tell straight away that it sounds totally different. It's most noticeable with the guitar and drums but the whole thing just sounds so roomy like there tons of space in there. They have gone for a different sound and it's really refreshing to me.
NowhereFaded wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:09 pm
I’ve been a tool fan since the mid nineties. Ænima days.
Have listened to FI 3 times.
It’s good.
I mean after 13 years can anything live up the the Hype?
Even new music by TOOL??
What jumps out to me most of all is where is the “hammer of the gods”, Adam Jones guitar tone and riffage. Where are the killer riffs that TOOL music is shaped by??
I can live with whatever Maynard contributes but I can’t live without Jones’ tones. Especially in the lead single. It’s baffling.
Am I the only one who immediately noticed this??
He is more about soundscaping and coherent overall sound.
Plus in the past I read enough comments that Adam wasn't an exceptional guitar player.
For me lucky enough he isn't someone who goes on overlong solos.
I rate him high because of the tandem with Justin.
Plus I never seen TooL as the killer riff band. They don't need that.
Local station is playing it! I'm surprised...seems our radio is getting better! I tuned in during the later part of the song, so not sure if it's a radio edit or not.
I hated it first 5 listens. I mean hated it. Called it the worst Tool song I had ever heard. It was the Puscifer style lyrics. The song also didn’t feel cohesive.
Then I put my ego aside and went back in with an open mind and I kept discovering layers of complexity in the music. At a certain point the lyrics, the style, the tone, it made sense. After about 20 listens on a good set of headphones I realized the song was fucking brilliant.
It wasn’t what I was expecting at all and I think that is a good thing. It challenged me more than any other Tool song. We all wanted evolution and change and this is that. This is a very different kind of Tool song. Yes the elements that make it Tool are there but how they go about presenting this particular musical idea is very very different. I get why it is the title track now.
M0G wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:36 pm
I hated it first 5 listens. I mean hated it. Called it the worst Tool song I had ever heard. It was the Puscifer style lyrics. The song also didn’t feel cohesive.
Then I put my ego aside and went back in with an open mind and I kept discovering layers of complexity in the music. At a certain point the lyrics, the style, the tone, it made sense. After about 20 listens on a good set of headphones I realized the song was fucking brilliant.
It wasn’t what I was expecting at all and I think that is a good thing. It challenged me more than any other Tool song. We all wanted evolution and change and this is that. This is a very different kind of Tool song. Yes the elements that make it Tool are there but how they go about presenting this particular musical idea is very very different. I get why it is the title track now.
M0G wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:36 pm
I hated it first 5 listens. I mean hated it. Called it the worst Tool song I had ever heard. It was the Puscifer style lyrics. The song also didn’t feel cohesive.
Then I put my ego aside and went back in with an open mind and I kept discovering layers of complexity in the music. At a certain point the lyrics, the style, the tone, it made sense. After about 20 listens on a good set of headphones I realized the song was fucking brilliant.
It wasn’t what I was expecting at all and I think that is a good thing. It challenged me more than any other Tool song. We all wanted evolution and change and this is that. This is a very different kind of Tool song. Yes the elements that make it Tool are there but how they go about presenting this particular musical idea is very very different. I get why it is the title track now.
i think its nice you gave it a chance and didnt go with your initial reaction. i understand not liking it, i understand loving it. but how do you go from worst tool song ever to brilliant? pretty dramatic change. kind of all over the place
either way, lets rock
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