Bottom line, if the album doesn't come out in 2014 I am done with Tool. I am over their bullshit. I will still listen to their prior albums from time to time, but I will never attend another concert nor will I purchase the new album if it ends up getting released in 2015. I don't care if ends up being Lateralus level good. Not going to support this kind of amateur hour lazy smoke and mirrors bullshit. Done.
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mogeffingmog said
Bottom line, if the album doesn't come out in 2014 I am done with Tool. I am over their bullshit. I will still listen to their prior albums from time to time, but I will never attend another concert nor will I purchase the new album if it ends up getting released in 2015. I don't care if ends up being Lateralus level good. Not going to support this kind of amateur hour lazy smoke and mirrors bullshit. Done.
Ahahahaha, fuck off, you'll buy a tshirt and a poster in 2015, who the fuck are you to give ultimatums? Ahahahahaha
Bottom line, if the album doesn't come out in 2014 I am done with Tool. I am over their bullshit. I will still listen to their prior albums from time to time, but I will never attend another concert nor will I purchase the new album if it ends up getting released in 2015. I don't care if ends up being Lateralus level good. Not going to support this kind of amateur hour lazy smoke and mirrors bullshit. Done.
Ahahahaha, fuck off, you'll buy a tshirt and a poster in 2015, who the fuck are you to give ultimatums? Ahahahahaha
Tyson after all this time you still haven't figured me out. Not even close. You also read very selectively, to a fault I might add. No one is giving Tool any ultimatum, don't be absurd.
My stance, at this point, is that I am personally tired of the bullshit. If the album isn't out by the end of next year I am done with Tool. If you don't buy that, don't believe it, don't agree with it, so be it. Makes zero difference to me on any level. You really should have figured that out a very long time ago.
You are bright Tyson, but not nearly as bright as you think you are.
My stance, at this point, is that I am personally tired of the bullshit. If the album isn't out by the end of next year I am done with Tool. If you don't buy that, don't believe it, don't agree with it, so be it. Makes zero difference to me on any level. You really should have figured that out a very long time ago.
You are bright Tyson, but not nearly as bright as you think you are.
mogeffingmog said
Tyson after all this time you still haven't figured me out. Not even close. You also read very selectively, to a fault I might add. No one is giving Tool any ultimatum, don't be absurd.
My stance, at this point, is that I am personally tired of the bullshit. If the album isn't out by the end of next year I am done with Tool. If you don't buy that, don't believe it, don't agree with it, so be it. Makes zero difference to me on any level. You really should have figured that out a very long time ago.
You are bright Tyson, but not nearly as bright as you think you are.
Dude you will buy and eat up whatever 'new' music Tool will release, regardless of time frame, give me a fucking break.
Also I'm dumb as shit, but not as dumb as I think I am.
Tyson after all this time you still haven't figured me out. Not even close. You also read very selectively, to a fault I might add. No one is giving Tool any ultimatum, don't be absurd.
My stance, at this point, is that I am personally tired of the bullshit. If the album isn't out by the end of next year I am done with Tool. If you don't buy that, don't believe it, don't agree with it, so be it. Makes zero difference to me on any level. You really should have figured that out a very long time ago.
You are bright Tyson, but not nearly as bright as you think you are.
Dude you will buy and eat up whatever 'new' music Tool will release, regardless of time frame, give me a fucking break.
Also I'm dumb as shit, but not as dumb as I think I am.
Tyson said
mogeffingmog said
Tyson after all this time you still haven't figured me out. Not even close. You also read very selectively, to a fault I might add. No one is giving Tool any ultimatum, don't be absurd.
My stance, at this point, is that I am personally tired of the bullshit. If the album isn't out by the end of next year I am done with Tool. If you don't buy that, don't believe it, don't agree with it, so be it. Makes zero difference to me on any level. You really should have figured that out a very long time ago.
You are bright Tyson, but not nearly as bright as you think you are.
Dude you will buy and eat up whatever 'new' music Tool will release, regardless of time frame, give me a fucking break.
Also I'm dumb as shit, but not as dumb as I think I am.
If it somehow makes you feel better to think I will buy any new music from Tool regardless of time frame then so be it. The majority of the time you and I are fucking with each other here. In this I am completely serious. My respect for Tool is about as low as it can get at this point. I won't give them a fucking cent if it takes them another two years to finish the album. Done.
mogeffingmog said
Tyson after all this time you still haven't figured me out. Not even close. You also read very selectively, to a fault I might add. No one is giving Tool any ultimatum, don't be absurd.
My stance, at this point, is that I am personally tired of the bullshit. If the album isn't out by the end of next year I am done with Tool. If you don't buy that, don't believe it, don't agree with it, so be it. Makes zero difference to me on any level. You really should have figured that out a very long time ago.
You are bright Tyson, but not nearly as bright as you think you are.
Dude you will buy and eat up whatever 'new' music Tool will release, regardless of time frame, give me a fucking break.
Also I'm dumb as shit, but not as dumb as I think I am.
If it somehow makes you feel better to think I will buy any new music from Tool regardless of time frame then so be it. The majority of the time you and I are fucking with each other here. In this I am completely serious. My respect for Tool is about as low as it can get at this point. I won't give them a fucking cent if it takes them another two years to finish the album. Done.
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Reading those snippets from Justin's interview, sounds to me like they're struggling to find the right riffs to have the album sound as good as they want it to be.. I wouldn't call that lazy.. To those criticizing, haven't you ever struggled to solve a puzzle & walked away from it, only to come back with fresh eyes & solve it straight away? Music's really no different. They're rich, they're not pissed off kids, these things can take time, at least for some individuals anyway..Â
In the mean time, if they wanna make cash grab tours, I'll happily fork out my hard earned to check it out, coz I dig the fuck out of live music & these guys are pretty shit hot at what they do...
In the mean time, if they wanna make cash grab tours, I'll happily fork out my hard earned to check it out, coz I dig the fuck out of live music & these guys are pretty shit hot at what they do...
Busty McCracken said
Reading those snippets from Justin's interview, sounds to me like they're struggling to find the right riffs to have the album sound as good as they want it to be.. I wouldn't call that lazy.. To those criticizing, haven't you ever struggled to solve a puzzle & walked away from it, only to come back with fresh eyes & solve it straight away? Music's really no different. They're rich, they're not pissed off kids, these things can take time, at least for some individuals anyway..Â
In the mean time, if they wanna make cash grab tours, I'll happily fork out my hard earned to check it out, coz I dig the fuck out of live music & these guys are pretty shit hot at what they do...
Doesn't take 8 years dude. Here is the thing I don't get Busty, why are you worried about people criticizing the band? I could understand if the threads were getting junked up, and I admit I contributed to that. But here, in this thread, why would it bother you? I am sick of Tool and I am not the only one. But there are people here I like and threads I enjoy posting in. Until I can find a better general music forum than FE, I am going to continue to chill here. Enjoy your Tool.
Reading those snippets from Justin's interview, sounds to me like they're struggling to find the right riffs to have the album sound as good as they want it to be.. I wouldn't call that lazy.. To those criticizing, haven't you ever struggled to solve a puzzle & walked away from it, only to come back with fresh eyes & solve it straight away? Music's really no different. They're rich, they're not pissed off kids, these things can take time, at least for some individuals anyway..Â
In the mean time, if they wanna make cash grab tours, I'll happily fork out my hard earned to check it out, coz I dig the fuck out of live music & these guys are pretty shit hot at what they do...
Doesn't take 8 years dude. Here is the thing I don't get Busty, why are you worried about people criticizing the band? I could understand if the threads were getting junked up, and I admit I contributed to that. But here, in this thread, why would it bother you? I am sick of Tool and I am not the only one. But there are people here I like and threads I enjoy posting in. Until I can find a better general music forum than FE, I am going to continue to chill here. Enjoy your Tool.
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So defensive, Mog. Seems to me Busty is trying to have a civil discussion about where the new album is at. I personally agree with him on the puzzle analogy. This is the place to argue about Tool, is it not?Â
Defensive? Not in the slightest. Baffled, absolutely. I have known Busty for some time. I get his position. We don't agree. Not much to debate. Most of us who post regularly in the Grudge don't really debate about anything. This is the fuck Tool thread, in case you missed it. I know you confuse easily.
So defensive, Mog. Seems to me Busty is trying to have a civil discussion about where the new album is at. I personally agree with him on the puzzle analogy. This is the place to argue about Tool, is it not?Â
Defensive? Not in the slightest. Baffled, absolutely. I have known Busty for some time. I get his position. We don't agree. Not much to debate. Most of us who post regularly in the Grudge don't really debate about anything. This is the fuck Tool thread, in case you missed it. I know you confuse easily.
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Bro, Â I couldn't give a flying fuck that you or anyone else are criticising Tool.. Â say what ya want about em, Â It makes no difference to my life.... I just find the hatred bordering on irrational I guess.Â
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The thing that gets me the most is the haters on here seem to make it out that those that look at it differently to them are just fan boys who are blinded by their love of the band.. Where as I see it different & look at the haters as the fan boys coz ya all seem to be so strung out over no new Tool album...Â
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No doubt they're lazy but they've worked their arse off to put themselves into that position to be able to, so who am I to begrudge em for that.. Plus Like I said in my last post, Â laziness aside, obviously the inspiration is harder to come by than when they were younger, so I understand that & it just doesn't piss me off like it seems to you guys.Â
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Like ya said before, you & I know each others stances & character so not having a go, just throwing my 2 cents in I suppose to offer a different opinion.Â
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The thing that gets me the most is the haters on here seem to make it out that those that look at it differently to them are just fan boys who are blinded by their love of the band.. Where as I see it different & look at the haters as the fan boys coz ya all seem to be so strung out over no new Tool album...Â
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No doubt they're lazy but they've worked their arse off to put themselves into that position to be able to, so who am I to begrudge em for that.. Plus Like I said in my last post, Â laziness aside, obviously the inspiration is harder to come by than when they were younger, so I understand that & it just doesn't piss me off like it seems to you guys.Â
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Like ya said before, you & I know each others stances & character so not having a go, just throwing my 2 cents in I suppose to offer a different opinion.Â
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Busty McCracken said
Bro, Â I couldn't give a flying fuck that you or anyone else are criticising Tool.. Â say what ya want about em, Â It makes no difference to my life.... I just find the hatred bordering on irrational I guess.Â
Â
The thing that gets me the most is the haters on here seem to make it out that those that look at it differently to them are just fan boys who are blinded by their love of the band.. Where as I see it different & look at the haters as the fan boys coz ya all seem to be so strung out over no new Tool album...Â
Â
No doubt they're lazy but they've worked their arse off to put themselves into that position to be able to, so who am I to begrudge em for that.. Plus Like I said in my last post, Â laziness aside, obviously the inspiration is harder to come by than when they were younger, so I understand that & it just doesn't piss me off like it seems to you guys.Â
Â
Like ya said before, you & I know each others stances & character so not having a go, just throwing my 2 cents in I suppose to offer a different opinion.Â
There is interwebz hate and real hate. This is a forum last time I checked. A big sandbox for us to fuck with each other. I can promise you I haven't lost any sleep over Tool's lack of output.
Bro, Â I couldn't give a flying fuck that you or anyone else are criticising Tool.. Â say what ya want about em, Â It makes no difference to my life.... I just find the hatred bordering on irrational I guess.Â
Â
The thing that gets me the most is the haters on here seem to make it out that those that look at it differently to them are just fan boys who are blinded by their love of the band.. Where as I see it different & look at the haters as the fan boys coz ya all seem to be so strung out over no new Tool album...Â
Â
No doubt they're lazy but they've worked their arse off to put themselves into that position to be able to, so who am I to begrudge em for that.. Plus Like I said in my last post, Â laziness aside, obviously the inspiration is harder to come by than when they were younger, so I understand that & it just doesn't piss me off like it seems to you guys.Â
Â
Like ya said before, you & I know each others stances & character so not having a go, just throwing my 2 cents in I suppose to offer a different opinion.Â
There is interwebz hate and real hate. This is a forum last time I checked. A big sandbox for us to fuck with each other. I can promise you I haven't lost any sleep over Tool's lack of output.
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