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M0G wrote:...Concerned that this being released in April will hold up any chance of Tool being released in the Fall.

Don't even hold your breath for later this year sir. Best case scenario, Tool is in the studio this summer and the album is out in early 2019.

hellboy wrote:Not sure if I'm being trolled right now.

Had that album artwork surface on April 1st I'd be right there with you.

*still not sure it's the actual artwork for the release though.

nxrm wrote:

M0G wrote:...Concerned that this being released in April will hold up any chance of Tool being released in the Fall.

Don't even hold your breath for later this year sir. Best case scenario, Tool is in the studio this summer and the album is out in early 2019.

Sadly you are right. If this APC shit wasn't happening they would be in the studio now. Honestly I would love an instrumental only Tool album. I have said it for years. Not gonna happen of course.

nxrm wrote:

hellboy wrote:Not sure if I'm being trolled right now.

Had that album artwork surface on April 1st I'd be right there with you.

*still not sure it's the actual artwork for the release though.

To be fair, 13th step artwork is just as ridiculous.

M0G wrote:

nxrm wrote:

M0G wrote:...Concerned that this being released in April will hold up any chance of Tool being released in the Fall.

Don't even hold your breath for later this year sir. Best case scenario, Tool is in the studio this summer and the album is out in early 2019.

Sadly you are right. If this APC shit wasn't happening they would be in the studio now. Honestly I would love an instrumental only Tool album. I have said it for years. Not gonna happen of course.

I always thought once Tool fufills their contract that Adam, Danny, and Justin should release an album under the name Triad... and have an album full of tracks like Triad.

xZ1mM3r wrote:
I always thought once Tool fufills their contract that Adam, Danny, and Justin should release an album under the name Triad... and have an album full of tracks like Triad.

I would love that honestly right now for this album but no chance in hell it will happen. Anyway time to duck out of this thread. This is for APC fans. I said it before, I will say it again, no matter how positive I am trying to be, all I see is APC as a road block to new Tool. Even if new APC was fantastic (and nothing I have heard so far is on any level), I would still have a hard time getting hyped for it because i know Tool has an album written, ready for lyrics and tracking.

ziggy23 wrote:

Just as bad as this

M0G wrote:

nxrm wrote:

M0G wrote:...Concerned that this being released in April will hold up any chance of Tool being released in the Fall.

Don't even hold your breath for later this year sir. Best case scenario, Tool is in the studio this summer and the album is out in early 2019.

Sadly you are right. If this APC shit wasn't happening they would be in the studio now. Honestly I would love an instrumental only Tool album. I have said it for years. Not gonna happen of course.

this is nonsense. tool is MJK, Adam, Danny, and Justin. Not Adam Danny and Justin. get real

M0G wrote:Another Emotive-esque song. Just not interested at all. Concerned that this being released in April will hold up any chance of Tool being released in the Fall. I don't know why Adam, Justin and Danny just don't go in the studio and starting tracking most of the music now and then Maynard can jump last minute and they can track the lyrics get the shit out for mastering in the summer. They don't need Maynard around for the tracks. Musically I don't think anything these guys have come up with is getting changed, so I don't see why it would cause a delay. Maynard will probably be less involved in this album than any, which is fine by me.

I think the reality here is that Tool aren't as far along as Danny would have us believe. I don't imagine for a second that completing the album is a simple case of Maynard slapping on some lyrics.

My expectation would be that Maynard completes his writing (probably happening now) and then the other three add a final layer of polish/tweaks to the songs to reflect the themes Maynard is trying to capture. At this point in time, I'll be a little surprised if Tool record until a little later in the year.

My thoughts on the interview/album:

• The cover and title are pretty awful
• I liked the new track
• I reckon the album will be ok, despite the artwork. There is at least a consistent vibe between the new tracks, and I don't dislike them.
• Several subtle, and not so subtle digs at Tool in that interview. FWIW I think Maynard is right to be frustrated
• I liked how the interviewer called Maynard out over the politicising of the record. Personally I don't care if the record is political or not, but for Maynard to try and work his way out of what is an overtly political statement seemed a bit silly.
• I wonder who the other drummers on the album are, if not Friedl

Yeah April/ May 2019 are looking likely but hey Maynard has continually said he needs to keep busy. I'm not overly fussed by any of the tunes ive heard for this new APC either but if the dude was gonna put his life on hold while waiting for songs to be completed , after 10 years he would not have accomplished anything. Really cant blame him for this to much or expect him to just drop everything jist because they say they are ready. I know my stubbornness would tell them they have to wait now to. Doesnt mean he won't be penning tunes in his head to the songs while touring apc

My take on the new APC tracks aside... It’s damn impressive that one dude can front 3 successful acts, somewhat simultaneously and keep them sounding quite distinct. It’s an accomplishment.

I am not a fan of some of the studio APC (Emotive) and certainly a lot of the Puscifer, but both kill live. Much of that depends heavily on MJK putting a great touring band together and delivering consistently good performances. Again, damn impressive.

maybe by and down the river is some kind of 3 libras / counting bodies like sheep remix thing. in the world of digital playlists, it just doesn't make sense to release the same song twice under a slightly different name. So I'd have by and down and by and down the river sitting next to each other in my spotify playlist while being the exact same song. dong. shit. #firstworldproblem

Maybe it's just a re-recording with their new label? The original By and Down was recorded through Virgin Records so perhaps BMG wanted their own version. I have no idea though just a thought.

Ettan wrote:Maybe it's just a re-recording with their new label? The original By and Down was recorded through Virgin Records so perhaps BMG wanted their own version. I have no idea though just a thought.

Yeah i was under the assumption that By and Down was just the working title for a song they had been messing with. To my knowledge it was never officially released on an Album. They recorded it in studio and played it live; it did appear live on Stone and Echo as well as on a greatest hits album. But that doesnt feel like an official release... I would assume the 'By and Down the River' is just the finished song.

Wow. Avatars from the past have returned to the boards. Weird. I am excited for the new APC album. I dig all of the new tracks and am excited to hear the other previously unrecorded songs in their album versions. I am sure they will present an eerie sonic landscape for our listening pleasure. APC Killed it live on this last tour. Puscifer has always been awesome live and TOOL was a force of nature at GovBall last year. The APC release sets up a Tool Release in the fall or spring of next year, hopefully with a Salival like pre-seminal release.

Also, I am happy MJK is down to politicize his art. From the very beginning his work had been political. Hush and Opiate are political screeds, third eye and aenima are political gut punches. I am happy he is willing to call out people *cough* “the religious right” *cough* “twitter addicts” *cough* “Trump apologists” *cough* on their hypocrisy and cynicism. In lieu of a quick kick to the head, maybe a rock screed will wake up some of the idiots.

New album, 12 songs.
6 songs I've already heard (3 new studio tracks, 2 live tracks (Feathers and Hourglass), and 1 track which was released in 2013 - By & Down).
So only 6 new songs left. Ok...
The artwork is awful and uninspired. I don't care anyway. But it's really stupid.
And I like the new song. It sounds much more better for me than previous two.
Just my 2 cents.

My analysis:

Music = Good
Artwork = Bad

Looking forward to the remaining 6 songs

xZ1mM3r wrote:They recorded it in studio and played it live; it did appear live on Stone and Echo as well as on a greatest hits album. But that doesnt feel like an official release.

What?

I knew it was going to be bad, but this is on a whole new level. The album cover isn't even the worst part - the lyrics are. This will not be Emotive 2. This will be Worst Album of 2018.

Bill Hilly wrote:I knew it was going to be bad, but this is on a whole new level. The album cover isn't even the worst part - the lyrics are. This will not be Emotive 2. This will be Worst Album of 2018.

Let's not get carried away here...

Haha.

Y'all haven't even heard my new LP yet. Dropping later this year.

UndKeineZwEier wrote:Y'all haven't even heard my new LP yet. Dropping later this year.

Please share the cover so we can start judging it

hellboy wrote:

UndKeineZwEier wrote:Y'all haven't even heard my new LP yet. Dropping later this year.

Please share the cover so we can start judging it

Coming Summer 2018